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j.hall

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let's put our cards on the table....
« on: October 21, 2004, 11:26:15 am »

i was thinking a few nights back about how we all pass around advice like it's pennies.

we talk about song writing and create taste on this forum ALL THE TIME.  i always wonder what some of you are doing creativily and where your perspectives are coming from.

i've PM'd some of you specifically asking.

so, i sort of realized that i haven't done squat in this regard.

so here it is, here are all my cards.....no disclaimers......no appologies.....this is me....

my band is called secret club, i play guitar in this band though i'm a drummer of 22 years.  i wrote all the songs years ago and some good friends liked em.....now we are a band that has a full length that hasn't been finished since i started tracking it four years ago.

website is a long story. so here we are.

http://www.myspace.com/secretclub/

you can listen to three songs in demo form.

while the Theta Rhythm site is being built i started a pure volume page for the mix room

the work up there was not done in the new room....but it's still my work.

http://www.purevolume.com/thetarhythm/

that's all i got......now you all know where i'm coming from.

you can like it, or you can not.
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Re: let's put our cards on the table....
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2004, 12:29:29 pm »

  Thanks for sharing J.,

 Not a whole lot here. You can check out the last record I worked on at:
www.cdbaby.com/cd/elband

 This was my first record. Charles Dye mixed it. Great learning experience. The record was released last weekend, Already played on the radio but I missed it.
I am helping this band now with a little preproduction for their demo sessions of newer material.

 Currently looking for my next band to work with. I am "helping" some friends of mines bands in the studio in the next few weeks.
Legends of Rodeo

www.lormusic.com

Just hanging socially in "the scene" schmoozing it up until my next gig.

-Conner
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spankenstein

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Re: let's put our cards on the table....
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2004, 12:41:02 pm »

I'm playing guitar, singing and writing in His Last Chance <http://hislastchance.com/> which is the project I started after my previous punk and/or punk/ska band was finally over. I also played in a band called Reversible and substitued for a while on guitar for Civella <http://civellamusic.com/>. I'm also subbing on bass for Deadline <http://deadlinband.com>.

Since 2003 I've been spending a lot more time on recording. I'd always been interested and had a 4-track in high school but after paying lots of money to record albums that just came out crappy I had the hubris to start putting my own project studio together. So far it's a success becuase I've made better sounding stuff at home than I ever paid anyone to do. Which is also sad since a. I'm so new and b. I think I've got a long way to go before I'm Good.

Samples of what I've recorde are at http://justinpenney.com/clients.shtml
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Phil Mayor

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Re: let's put our cards on the table....
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2004, 12:47:12 pm »

Ok cool.

Well I've been drumming/guitaring messing around with studio equipment for 20 years or so. Most recently I was is in Jim Palmers band for a few years (son of famous singer Robert Palmer, the Addicted to Love track remember that?) we demo'd 70 odd songs in various studios. Can't play it to you though due to contractual reasons unfortunately. But..I can can give you a link to a cover we used to do to warm up www.orangeyellowred.com/monkey_food.mp3 its a cover of the Foo Fighters track Monkey Wrench that we recorded 100% live on two old VS880's chained together in my studio. It has me playing drums and Jim on vocals. Came out really good I think.

And now I'm recording my own stuff with me playing everything and getting a female singer to do the main vocals, I do backing and stuff. You can hear a track I did 6 months ago on two VS880's again Smile here: www.orangeyellowred.com/allthehopes.mp3 if you're interested. I live in the UK next door to Robert Smith of The Cure if that counts hehe..my favourite mix is To here knows When by My Bloody Valentine who where a band I used to gig with.

Recently I spent a whole serious bunch of cash on much, much better equipment that I'm now learning to use, and that's why I joined this forum to help me learn. I am in the middle of recording with the gear for the first time right now.

Best, Phil.

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Re: let's put our cards on the table....
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2004, 01:43:24 pm »

I don't have any cards... Where do you get cards?





I started playing drums when I was in grade school. I quit after the summer my mother made me do summer band. I was in your typical little kids bands during those years. I didn't start playing music again until I had the hots for a chick who like guitar players. I was taken by surprise and became addicted to shred and heavy metal. I took private lessons for almost 4 years before applying for a coorispondance coarse run by a Musicians Institute of Technology Guitar instructor. Woodshed'd until auditioning for a Christian heavy metal group called Golgotha.
We wrote, we rehearses and went through several lineups while trying to survive grunge. Somewhere in this I met Victor Marrese a local studio owner who was originally from Chicago. I watched, learned and then was removed from my position for arguing with Vic while clients were present. I tried looking for other similar jobs but eveyone was full up. I bought a 4 track. Wrote wrote wrote. I bought and 8 track and did a concept album by myself in a 8X8X8 cube. The results of that experiment. http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/album.php?aid=1216&a lid=-1

Since my first recording experiences were in a large facility I knew If I was to be happy I was going to have to start heading back in that direction for sanity sake. The garage ( http://www.atomictoyboxstudios.com ) is a compromise with my goals and my wifes. Over the years I've probably assisted in hundred of songs off and on with various bands who never went anywhere. This led me to believe for a long time that it(lack of success) was my doing somehow. So I eventually kept my cards hidden and only used them to help people via word of mouth.  In January I pulled my cards out to help a local band because other studio they went to wasn't working out. Here is the results of basically 2 days:
http://www.submissiontheband.com/ click on the music icon.

While Im doing additional noise abatement construction work in the studio Im working with a Entertainment company that does commercials and short films called Vaceart Entertainment that is just getting off the ground.

I know.... Way too much information.  

The thorn in my side right now is rewriting a song that was crtiqued in the MARSH.

See...

I said I didn't have any cards.

Peace,
Dennis




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Re: let's put our cards on the table....
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2004, 02:33:21 pm »

Hmmmmm...

I was the singer/bassist of a band called Four Pointed Sisters
http://www.geocities.com/fourpointedsisters
Unfortunately I don't think there is any place on the interenet our music can still be found.........

The only thing I'm really engaged in now is videography, working for a place called Cass Advertising. We make commercials for local businesses. I'd like to think that the video and audio quality of our commercials has increased a lot since I started, but they can always be better.
http://www.cassadvertising.com
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Re: let's put our cards on the table....
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2004, 03:18:56 pm »

Good shit J. --

I'm pretty new here.. but I'll share if anyone's intersted.

I've been writing songs and playing in bands for the last 10 or so years. The latest project is called A.J. & Altercana.

After the last solo record I put out, I had some minimal success. Charted on R&R on the specialty charts... where they gave me record of the week as well. (excuse the sound of me patting my own back)

We're in the process of wrapping up a new six song EP.

You can check it all out HERE if interested.

A.J.

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Re: let's put our cards on the table....
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2004, 04:17:55 pm »

As for me, I'm a simple college student. I'm just starting up my band, Land&Station, and while the four main members are established I'm still adding more.. you can never have enough violin, accordion, and xylophone players (I WILL have my 100 piece crackpot orchestra!)

As far as recording is concerned my setup is most basic, a computer, an echo mia, a few 57s, an at3035, and a atm25, a small mixer, a dmp3, monitors, and some plugins. haha while being the most weak setup it gets my stuff recorded better than a lot of demos i hear. As far as stuff I've already done my solo project peoplelikeus can be found at http://www.utdallas.edu/~bdv021000 but most of that stuff was quick flurries of ideas and means of sonic experimentation and emotional release as opposed to actual recordings.

I still haven't decided if I want to truly focus on recording, or if I should stick to making music... either way it's always good to learn as much as I can about this kinda stuff just for the fun of it.
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Re: let's put our cards on the table....
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2004, 04:24:26 pm »

Cool tunes, j.  I'm not so up on the latest in indie rock, but I'll tell you this (and it's a compliment coming from me even if you don't think so) -- your tunes reminded me a bit of Superchunk.  No doubt there's major stylistic differences, but something about the rhythm and timbre of the vocals just makes me think back to "skip steps 1 and 3".
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Re: let's put our cards on the table....
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2004, 04:40:34 pm »

Even though I've only posted on these forums a few times I figured I would post something about myself anyway, I guess as an intro.  

Been playing bass gtr about 8 years and am currently starting a band that at the moment has no name, as soon as songs are even in the demo stage I will post them.  

Got into recording about 5 years ago and dont hold this against me I went to a recording school.  I will not post which one but if anyone wants to PM me I will divulge and tell u just why said school is an utter load of crap.  I have been working in professional studios going on 3 years and have a mobile rig consisting of a PC running Nuendo with an Aardvark Q10 some 57s, an NT1 and a few other lower food chain mics.  Even with this meager setup I have recorded a few records that have been released on small indies.  

Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.
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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2004, 05:20:51 pm »

I'm Fibes, I run a shop called Elevated Basement studio and Play in a band called Superhorse and another band (we're reuniting for a halloween show) called GAM.

Playing studio guitar is how i got into this 10+ years ago and now it's eating up all of my playing time. Waaahhh!

I will continue to fight the PT monopoly, remain addicted to Class-A gear and have too many mics around for my own good.

http://www.elevatedbasement.com

One of the last albums that's been internationally released from my shop:
http://www.rlj3.com

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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2004, 02:22:15 am »

I've been playing drums and percussion for almost as long as I can remember.  My Dad's Uncle Mario was a drummer and gave me my first sticks and practice pad when I was 3.  I've been playing ever since.  I'm in a quirky rock band called Wiplot.  We are the laziest band in show business so there's not a website or music posted anywhere on the web.

I opened my studio, Oxide Lounge Recording, in the fall of 2002.  Before that I worked at a studio that a friend owned.  he decided to get out and I bought a lot of the gear and found a much better room to put it in.

I'm currently producing the second record by a band called Backyard Tire Fire.  They did their debut with me last summer, and had a film crew there to make a documentary.  There are music and movie clips on their site   Backyard Tire Fire.  

I spent over a year (on and off) working with a band called None Taken.  They have clips at None Taken.  They recently had the opportunity to open for Sevendust based on the record we did called "A Certain Sense of Touch."

There were also two songs by Secret Club mixed at my joint last year when J Hall came for weekend.

I also have an accompanist gig for the dance department at Illinois State University.
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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2004, 12:59:46 pm »

My first experience in a recording studio was a modest failure. I can remember the engineer saying "this is a pretty normal mix for this type of music." Right, normal, that's exactly what we're aiming for. I'm still surprised he bothered to pretend he knew what "type" of music we were making. Unless "shitty" can be considered a genre.

But we weren't completely without merit. We played our instruments passably well for 16 and 17 year olds with one exception. Our drummer Jason played the drums like a drunken octopus, and happened to be 25 at that time.

We borrowed all the nicest gear we could get our hands on-- which ultimately wasn't that nice: A Randall 4x12, my Dad's silver face dual showman, a yamaha bass etc. Unfortunately we didn't know that having 3 year old drum heads would affect our sound so adversely.

But hey, this was 2" tape mixed down on a large format console, this was going to sound great.

Except it didn't.

Then the engineer accused us of stealing his smokes. And all trust was lost. This was when I started to become suspicious of the word "pro."

"Pro" seemed to imply working knowledge of the production techniques employed by Journey and not much else.

Eventually we started recording with a friend who owned an ADAT joint when that shit was brand new. After a few sessions there we realized that something was wrong with the sound of his Mackie/Alesis combo. So we rented a room, bought a 1/2" 8 track and a Tascam board and set out on our own.

Now I'm not saying the Tascam sounded better than the mackie-- it just sounded different. I think we were inordinately attached to that board-- probably because it was brown with orange knobs--a combination of notable aesthetic genius.

We recorded ourselves a lot, and we recorded other bands. We hit the tape really hot. Nothing sounded that great but it sounded different enough from the ADAT guy that we started to win his more critical clients.

Then I got older and moved around a lot.

I got into DAW recording in 1999 because it was compact and affordable and because (like many people at that time) I was under the influence of OK Computer and had vague ideas about pastiche and/or musique concrete.

So these days I'm back home in CA, recording various projects.

In February I started playing with some old Friend's here's the website: http://thedyingcalifornian.com/

We're currently tracking our next record.



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Re: let's put our cards on the table....
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2004, 04:01:56 pm »

rattleyour wrote on Fri, 22 October 2004 11:59


"Pro" seemed to imply working knowledge of the production techniques employed by Journey and not much else.




oh man, that post killed me............

great stuff.
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Re: let's put our cards on the table....
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2004, 01:03:19 am »

j.hall wrote on Fri, 22 October 2004 16:01

rattleyour wrote on Fri, 22 October 2004 11:59


"Pro" seemed to imply working knowledge of the production techniques employed by Journey and not much else.




oh man, that post killed me............



....and brought us back to life.
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