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[Bivouac]

I went to the music store yesterday to bring home some new tunes.  One of these CD's was the new Pinback.  While I'm not sure it's better than "Blue Screen Life", it sounds really, really good and features some band dynamics that are little different from what they've previously done.  It also features lot's of real drums and piano sounds...oh well

I was in major label mood I guess--took a break from everything.  Walked away with the new Snow Patrol record (after a friend recommended I give them a listen--don't know what to think yet), the new Jimmy Eat World, and Denver Harbour's debut.

The new Jimmy has the worst mastering I've ever heard on a record.  Squashed to hell and basically in mono; I might as well be listening to it on radio.  There's a few really good songs though--I wasn't expecting much.  I bought the Denver Harbour because I was really impressed by them live.  It's the kid prodigy (now older) drummer from F.O.N. and the singer from Riverfenix (haha, I know).  It's really well played and interesting all the way through.  A solid hard rock record...

Ok, back to looking for cool new indie bands....

[j.hall]

not heavy rock....but brilliantly written songs

Kid Dakota's new record has been out for a while and i just got it......it's BRILLIANT.

and it sounds incredible.

http://kiddakota.com/

10,000 lakes is the mp3 off the new record, and it's not nearly the best track.

[mogwailoveyou]

what i heard of the pinback was extremely similar to their old stuff, not that that's a bad thing at all, i love their playful style. the new jew is soooo bad, it's quite tragic how they have taken every single bad cliche you could come up with about emo bands "selling out" and given it new meaning. maybe the emo game is right and we should all do battle against them in their golden spaceship using 7"s as projectile weapons...

if you like snow patrol you should check out the reindeer section. they are pretty much the scottish superband but is mainly done by the main guy from snow patrol, not to mention having members of mogwai, belle and sebastian, arab strap, and idlewild (to name  a few) also in the band. catchy pop music, 'tis nice.

[redelephant]

I really like the new Pinback. However I liked it better when they used lo-fi samples rather then the Battery or Drumkit from Hell patches. The drums sound so rock this time, which is a cool change but I think the previous drum tones worked better with their style. Those guys' voices are crazy incredible.

I kind of dig some of the tracks off the new JEW record. Could be better, but that seems to be the theme behind every new JEW record.

[Chad Sims]

Does Jimmy Eat World have a new producer or not.  The only track I have heard is the new single and although it might just be a case of least challenging song so its the single, it sound rather dull for a JEW song.  How does the rest of the album compare.  The song was really good by the way and maybe I am just being too picky because I have just come to expect so much from JEW.  

[Bivouac]

The new producer is Gil Norton, and frankly I'm shocked at what this sounds like.  Word is Trombino had his hand in on a couple of songs though...

"Pain" is rather dull.  "Kill", "The World You Love", and "Work" are brilliant pop songs though--they alone were worth buying the album.  The rest kind of follows suit with "Pain".  "Night Drive" is unlistenable...

I like a lot of the drum sounds on the new Pinback, but I loved a lot of the LoFi stuff too.  Yeah, they don't explore a lot of new ground (a lot more piano...) but it's a solid installment.  The vocal harmonization is really good...

Thank you for the recommendations.  I wasn't aware of a Raindeer Section, supergroups are always fun.  I've been buying up a lot of Mogwai lately too...

I'll check out Kid Dakota too...

Again, I appreciate it...

Hey, as long as we're throwing out albums we've been getting into.  Anyone into Owen?  Matt Kinsella's one-man-band type thing?  It kind of fills a void left by American Football.  Really good acoustic recordings...I'd kill to know what preamps he used...

[NelsonL]

I know it sounds cliched to plug their old band-- but you guys like three mile pilot? They did some great stuff with Trombino.

I kind of prefer them to pinback, plus they were an amazing live act.

In case you don't know:

pinback-singer+blackheartsprocession=threemilepilot.

There will not be a quiz!

Don't you hate people who only like a bands "older stuff." I really don't mean to be that guy on this forum. I like the Walkmen better than Jonathan Fire Eater, does that count?

[mogwailoveyou]

i always get the kinsella brothers mixed up. haha i love bands with brothers... apparently tim has a new project called make believe (without mike but with the other brother nate,) although i'm more a fan of mike's work. owen is such lovely music and i love the guitar work that american football did, i like to refer to it as organicemomathrock (decipher what you will from that) I still need to hear the owls as it once again has all of the brothers back together again, i just hope it's better than joan of arc, as a lot of that really was lost on me.

[mogwailoveyou]

rattleyour wrote on Thu, 21 October 2004 17:36

I Don't you hate people who only like a bands "older stuff." I really don't mean to be that guy on this forum. I like the Walkmen better than Jonathan Fire Eater, does that count?

never. bands never progress a musician is only pure on his first attempt  . god the walkmen rock live... i was hit by his micstand twice at the last show... always love singers that sound like bob dylan on heroin singing lounge songs.

pall jenkins is such a great singer. i love the stuff he did with the album leaf on their new one. any album that has the album leaf/sigur ros/pall jenkins all in one place is definately worth the money.

[Bo]

pinback is excellent.  especially the SECOND time you ever see them live.  I'm serious.

[mogwailoveyou]

Bo wrote on Fri, 03 December 2004 13:57

pinback is excellent.  especially the SECOND time you ever see them live.  I'm serious.

did you see them at trees with tree wave?

[Bivouac]

Bo wrote on Fri, 03 December 2004 13:57

pinback is excellent.  especially the SECOND time you ever see them live.  I'm serious.

For serious?  I saw them a few weeks ago for the first time and I thought they sucked.  Like REALLY sucked, almost a disgrace to their recorded music.  They're playing again on New Year's Eve and I might consider going if you could explain why...

[Bo]

mogwailoveyou wrote on Fri, 03 December 2004 22:25

Bo wrote on Fri, 03 December 2004 13:57 pinback is excellent.  especially the SECOND time you ever see them live.  I'm serious. did you see them at trees with tree wave?

yes, and i know they screwed up some, but seriously - they had such a chill vibe that night.  I was happy, as were my music snob friends...

(I've seen them 3 times total)

[Fibes]

rattleyour wrote on Thu, 21 October 2004 18:36

I like the Walkmen better than Jonathan Fire Eater, does that count?

I like Nick Cave better than Jonathan Fire Eater... JFE was one of my least favorite NY bands of that era. JFE a'poser...

[NelsonL]

Fibes wrote on Mon, 06 December 2004 12:42

rattleyour wrote on Thu, 21 October 2004 18:36 I like the Walkmen better than Jonathan Fire Eater, does that count? I like Nick Cave better than Jonathan Fire Eater... JFE was one of my least favorite NY bands of that era. JFE a'poser...

I bet JFE liked the Birthday Party better than Nick Cave-- or their own band.

Don't tell me you're an Unsane fan.

[mogwailoveyou]

Bo wrote on Mon, 06 December 2004 14:00

yes, and i know they screwed up some, but seriously - they had such a chill vibe that night.  I was happy, as were my music snob friends... (I've seen them 3 times total)

i dunno. i mean by no means were they bad, but after an hour or so it starts to get wearing, especially when you have some 15 year old kid pumping his fist and screaming lyrics in your ear... ya screaming pinback lyrics! how rediculous is that... but still rob is nifty on bass (at least i think the bassist is rob.) tree wave really blew my mind though, they were most enjoyable. that second band though was soooo miserable!!! it was like they would just tease you with a buildup and then the song would slow down, the only release was that psuedo-blackmetal moment at the end. but ya overall a good show but i don't know if i'd go see another show just to see pinback.

[Bo]

tree wave was pure novelty in my opinion...I wasn't impressed.

The 2nd band was bad.

every show in Dallas is like that - that's why I like Tree's 21+ balcony, you eliminate the  superfan kids.  Well, you still have to deal with drunk girls and couples making out...but it's less crowded up there.

[Fibes]

rattleyour wrote on Mon, 06 December 2004 16:56

Fibes wrote on Mon, 06 December 2004 12:42 rattleyour wrote on Thu, 21 October 2004 18:36 I like the Walkmen better than Jonathan Fire Eater, does that count? I like Nick Cave better than Jonathan Fire Eater... JFE was one of my least favorite NY bands of that era. JFE a'poser... I bet JFE liked the Birthday Party better than Nick Cave-- or their own band. Don't tell me you're an Unsane fan.

Yeah, the Birthday party specifically... I don't listen to Unsane, actually i did once whilst running FOH for them years ago. I pretty much stayed out in front of the club. So much for my devry hands on training... Why do you ask? heh heh.

I was unaware that the Walkmen had JFE members and to be blunt I prefer the WALLMEN. Great band, why no one payed too much attention is beyond me.

Then again i've been listening to the Mattoid lately.

[jthoen]

Not to keep this away from Pinback some more but am I the only one who thinks the walkmen are not nearly as good as JFE.  The walkmen show was one of the weakest* I have seen where as JFE put on the Best live show I have seen.  They floored me, I should say I was 15 at the time and I believe it was JFE's first tour plus they clearly were taking some drugs at the time.  Still im a much bigger JFE fan and felt the need to support.  

*ok so there were probably only 30 people in 7th st at the time, and they didnt have anything out and it was on monday or something like that.

joe

[NelsonL]

Fibes wrote on Tue, 07 December 2004 14:01

rattleyour wrote on Mon, 06 December 2004 16:56 Fibes wrote on Mon, 06 December 2004 12:42 rattleyour wrote on Thu, 21 October 2004 18:36 I like the Walkmen better than Jonathan Fire Eater, does that count? I like Nick Cave better than Jonathan Fire Eater... JFE was one of my least favorite NY bands of that era. JFE a'poser... I bet JFE liked the Birthday Party better than Nick Cave-- or their own band. Don't tell me you're an Unsane fan. Yeah, the Birthday party specifically... I don't listen to Unsane, actually i did once whilst running FOH for them years ago. I pretty much stayed out in front of the club. So much for my devry hands on training... Why do you ask? heh heh. I was unaware that the Walkmen had JFE members and to be blunt I prefer the WALLMEN. Great band, why no one payed too much attention is beyond me. Then again i've been listening to the Mattoid lately.

When I lived in Brooklyn JFE, TMBG, and Unsane were the neighborhood bands(at least from my perspective.) It kind of seemed like there was some unspoken rule that said you could only like one of the three.

So anyway it seemed like you might have been around at the time and I didn't peg you for a TMBG fan! All that midi...

The Walkmen are basically a revamped JFE with another singer so it figures you wouldn't dig either one. I don't know the Mattoid.

[mogwailoveyou]

Bo wrote on Tue, 07 December 2004 13:30

tree wave was pure novelty in my opinion...I wasn't impressed. The 2nd band was bad. every show in Dallas is like that - that's why I like Tree's 21+ balcony, you eliminate the  superfan kids.  Well, you still have to deal with drunk girls and couples making out...but it's less crowded up there.

i dunno a good novelty band is always fun, much better than the drivel spewing from the second band. alas my young bones aren't allowed to the 21+ level, 20 is a miserable age... but i definately agree dallas isn't the best concert enviroment, denton is much better in my opinion.

the ridglea can be a good venue and there's another one i can't think of that i like in ft. worth... but then again venues aside ft. worth has angelo's bbq!!!

[NelsonL]

We played at Rubber Gloves.

Where else do folks play in Denton? Are there a lot of venues?

Anybody ever play at the women's college?

[mogwailoveyou]

rubber gloves used to be the main spot but then their booking agent moved to hailey's which is where most of the "larger" indie bands are playing these days, it probably gets the best shows in all of north texas. rubber gloves still is awesome and gets good bands. a lot of the good local bands play at dan's silverleaf bar/venue.