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ohboring1

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Decca Tree
« on: June 01, 2017, 03:39:04 PM »

I am a high school band director and I would like to setup a permanently installed Decca tree. It would be used to record everyday rehearsals and to record concert album tracks. I will be recording wind ensembles and percussion ensembles.

I would like to suspend it from the ceiling instead of placing on stands.

My question is what kind of mics should I use and can I leave the mics installed on the tree all year long without damaging them? Also, do you think the Decca tree is the best option for my needs?

Here is what I have:

2 Neumann KM 184 (matched pair)
4 AKG C414 XLII (2 matched pairs)
4 Royer 101 (2 matchd pairs)
3 AKG C214
SM 57 (dozens)

I can also get additional microphones if none of these would meet my needs.


Thanks for the help!

Jason
High School Band Director
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Tim Halligan

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Re: Decca Tree
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2017, 10:56:07 PM »

Your 414's should do the trick...and will give you the option to try the left and right mics as either omni or cardioid.

If necessary, you could use a pair of 214's as outer mics for the large ensemble if you want to stay with large diaphragm condensers all around, other wise the KM184's could fill that role.

http://tapeop.com/tutorials/46/microphones-decca-tree-technique/

If you wanted to get really cute funny and fresh, you could rig a pair of the Royers in a Blumlein configuration just above the conductor's head for a different take on a stereo setup.

As for leaving them up for the year, that would depend entirely on the environment...dust, humidity, etc.

HTH

Cheers,
Tim
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Re: Decca Tree
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2017, 01:29:28 AM »

Tim's suggestions are pretty much spot on... I would investigate if its possible to raise and lower the "Decca Tree" and remove the microphones when not in use.  As Tim pointed out, environmental factors [dust, etc.] will put them in harms way if you leave them in a fixed position.  Dust screens can be used... but must be washed on a fairly regular basis as dust accumulations will indeed alter the sound [in a dulling / not really pleasant kind of way].

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Re: Decca Tree
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2017, 04:24:15 AM »

Nice Post



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Re: Decca Tree
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2017, 11:12:53 AM »

i know i am late to the party, but...

For this application, I would go with a trio of OM1 mics.
http://www.lineaudio.se/OM1.html

they are inexpensive (won't hurt the scholl budget), are very small (easy to hang and move) and sound very, very good (surprisingly so, considering the price).
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