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Lynn Fuston

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Ebay alert - Manley SLAM!
« on: September 07, 2004, 12:01:40 pm »

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=37468 09619&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1


I believe the above auction to be fraudulent for several reasons.

-Seller has no transaction history
-Seller joined Ebay the day the auction started
-Seller wants Western Union payment only
-Seller is using MY picture to advertise the unit
-Seller has claimed in a email to a purchaser to be ME (Lynn Fuston)
-Seller has hotmail address
-Short (3-day) auction
-No reserve or starting bid listed on a $9000 piece of gear
-The serial number advertised does not exist

EveAnna Manley concurs that it appears to be totally fraudulent. I have contacted ebay about having it pulled.
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Peter Simonsen

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Re: Ebay alert - Manley SLAM!
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2004, 12:12:11 pm »

Ohh..Man..One has to be rather stupid to be selling a high profiled item using a rather known mans (within the audio industry) pic, and name...Either stupid or ball bigger than church bells..*tsk-tsk* I wote for the first Wink

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Peter

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Re: Ebay alert - Manley SLAM!
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2004, 03:35:02 pm »

Uh, someone probably should have asked...I'm told that the mastering version has only recently been released.

Would love to know what these guys are thinking...

George
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Re: Ebay alert - Manley SLAM!
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2004, 04:35:31 pm »

Peter Simonsen wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 17:12

Ohh..Man..One has to be rather stupid to be selling a high profiled item using a rather known mans (within the audio industry) pic, and name...Either stupid or ball bigger than church bells..*tsk-tsk* I wote for the first Wink

Kind regards

Peter




Having balls bigger than church bells doesn't rule out stupidity, I wager. Smile

/Danko

Ps.... Darn, does this mean I shouldn't do the deal on E-bay on that Sony desk by some guy who calls himself George somewhere in Metzlersburg or whatever it was? And I thought I had the deal of a lifetime. *sigh*
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Re: Ebay alert - Manley SLAM!
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2004, 06:07:39 pm »

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 Comes with power supply, original shipping boxes, and manuel.


So, who is this Manuel guy and why do I want him in my control room?
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Re: Ebay alert - Manley SLAM!
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2004, 06:19:44 pm »

Manuel came from the legit auction this stoopid fraud guy copied his info from.

Here was the *legit* auction that closed yesterday:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2 3793&item=3744902618&rd=1 And just cuz he can't spell don't mean he didn't have a real unit to sell.

Anyhoo, as also posted on GS: "BOGUS_Manley_DONT_BID" is me. If you see that userid show up on a Manley auction, uhm, well, you should heed my blatant advice. This is not the first time this crap has happened.

FYI, Brad retracted his Audio_Buster bid so that my userid would convey the intended message a little better. I even made a nice "About Me" page just in case there are still some seriously dense people still wanting a mastering SLAM! for eight hundred bucks...

For more info, please read:

MANLEY's eBay FRAUD INFO PAGE
http://www.manleylabs.com/containerpages/16x2FRAUD.html

And protect yerseff from:
http://www.manleylabs.com/eBaypages/BOGUS_SLAM_files/bogusebay.gif
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Re: Ebay alert - Manley SLAM!
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2004, 07:32:34 pm »

Yo Vanimal,

Sign up for the VeRO program at eBay.  It basically lets you take down any auction simply by sending them an email; a few hours later it's gone.

http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidence/vero-rights-owner.html

Although it's not specifically designed to do what you do, you can sort of end-run it by playing the 'trademark infringement' card... something I know is one of your hobbies.

--Erik
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Re: Ebay alert - Manley SLAM!
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2004, 08:49:22 pm »

Erik wrote on Tue, 07 September 2004 18:32

Yo Vanimal,

Sign up for the VeRO program at eBay....

Although it's not specifically designed to do what you do, you can sort of end-run it by playing the 'trademark infringement' card... something I know is one of your hobbies.



Ouch.
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Re: Ebay alert - Manley SLAM!
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2004, 09:43:27 pm »

Hi Erik,
I *am* a VeRo member and have been for awhile. (Just like you!)
What happened to the Ranger on-line tracker thing? That website is gone. I know you used to use it A LOT. And you are much better at software than I. Do you know where it went? I did print out the VeRo infringement report this morning from eBay's site and I faxed it to eBay, but alas after that, three other complaints sent in by various folks I know about, and 12 hours, the damn fraud auction is *still* up...
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2004, 11:53:12 pm »

I haven't heard about the Ranger thing.  Don't know what that is or where it want.

I wrote a custom app that did searches against eBay and emailed me when it found anything suspicious.  But if you structure your search criteria carefully (read some of the more esoteric search options) you can use the automated search function on eBay and have them email you links nightly as well.

The way Vero worked for me was that I simply forwarded an email formletter with the auction number pasted in it. Without exception, the auction came down in an hour or two.  After the initial signup (which required a certified letter), I never had to FAX anything.

My hunch is that the email was handled by an automated system, so you'll want to get that going instead of faxing things.

--Erik
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Re: Ebay alert - Manley SLAM!
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2004, 12:14:36 am »

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Having balls bigger than church bells doesn't rule out stupidity, I wager. :)/Danko






Hmmm..Youre on to something there..!!! Very Happy  

Kind regards

Peter
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Re: Ebay alert - Manley SLAM!
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2004, 12:18:24 am »

EveAnna,

Any idea why your line gets all this attention?  I feel for you.  It's a real drag to have to chase this stuff down.

Odd thing is, this is kind of like offering to sell a Picasso. Sales of these kinds of items attracts attention.  It's not like the pro community is so large this kind of thing can get by unnoticed.  They'd do better running a scam pretending to sell low priced stuff.
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Re: Ebay alert - Manley SLAM!
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2004, 01:31:05 am »

No different from any other line. Hi-end audio and exotic cars are being raped. Professional audio/Manley, gets attention. They (Manley) would like it no other way...but positive attention. Both of which is attention nevertheless.
Audio asylum has seen 50K in bad checks presented with less than 10 attempts.


http://www.audioasylum.com/scripts/d.pl?cgi-bin/html/scam.ht ml
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Re: Ebay alert - Manley SLAM!
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2004, 01:43:31 am »

Just like I remember in school some idiot in the school yard always wants to wreck things for the other kids.
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Re: Ebay alert - Manley SLAM!
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2004, 01:53:25 am »

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Just like I remember in school some idiot in the school yard always wants to wreck things for the other kids.



This happens in all classes, all situations. It is most unfortunant. It will never stop. Either theives or popularity contests. It is all the same. Injustace, bias and strife.

"Make someone hurt so you don't have to" seems to be a trend.


Little do they know, it hurts us all, period.
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