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dietrich

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yes another speaker thread! upgrade time?
« on: February 05, 2012, 10:13:15 am »

I've been working on mid-field Adam S3A for years now and happy with the translation.

Time to consider an upgrade with my new room move.

First decision is to stay mid-fields or go full range. My new room will be 15x22x9. Issue in the room as always the big metal Neumann pieces.
One thought is if room is wide enough for proper full range placement as well as the Sterling A getting in the way if too close to speakers.

Leaning towards mid-field upgrade. Need to find a place to listen next.
ATC SCM50
Barefoot MM27
Adam S3X
PMC IB2S -too big?

anyone with thoughts about pros/cons of the above list please chime in!
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Re: yes another speaker thread! upgrade time?
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2012, 12:02:16 pm »

I've been working on mid-field Adam S3A for years now and happy with the translation.

Time to consider an upgrade with my new room move.

First decision is to stay mid-fields or go full range. My new room will be 15x22x9. Issue in the room as always the big metal Neumann pieces.
One thought is if room is wide enough for proper full range placement as well as the Sterling A getting in the way if too close to speakers.

Leaning towards mid-field upgrade. Need to find a place to listen next.
ATC SCM50
Barefoot MM27
Adam S3X
PMC IB2S -too big?

anyone with thoughts about pros/cons of the above list please chime in!

People tend to be quite loyal to their speaker choice. We've used ATC SCM50 for a number of years now and regard them as being a crucial part of the system here. 

Cheers,

Eric
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Re: yes another speaker thread! upgrade time?
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2012, 12:03:52 pm »

When I upgrade from my ATC SCM 20s, it will undoubtedly be the 50s that I go for.

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Re: yes another speaker thread! upgrade time?
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2012, 12:05:55 pm »

I have a PMC MB1 XBD rig in a room that's 15x18x11. IB2s would be fine your room. If you're thinking ATC I'd go with at least 100s.

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Re: yes another speaker thread! upgrade time?
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2012, 12:08:02 pm »

If you're thinking ATC I'd go with at least 100s.


That really does depend a fair bit on the application. I prefer the 50's to the 100 and so do many other as there seems to be a better integration of the mid and woofer. Sometimes that can be quite important. When we first got the 50s we mainly did jazz and classical and for that the 50s were better: now we're doing a lot more mainstream work the 50's still do what's required. We've passed a couple of times on the opportunity to change at minimal cost, but as it 'aint broke ....

All great speakers though ... :)

Cheers,

Eric
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Re: yes another speaker thread! upgrade time?
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2012, 04:12:35 pm »

Hi D. !

i'm not fan of the IB2 personnaly i had them here for about 2 years with hypex amps.
they have something weird in the bass with the transmission line it's very flatering, and a bit difficult to know where it's really right. and the thing to have the mids at 11 up the ears to have them aligned is weird.

i had some smc 150 on loan for a month great mids, that's a fact ! but the basses were too much for my room so i kept my http://www.klinger-favre.com/ studio 15 wich were still more accurate in the mids and high.
i know they'll start to have a representative in US as Jean Jacques Bacquet who build those speakers (one by one by hand ) did a few accoustic works in NY. and he's developing a new model for the US wich is a bit up my studio 15 maybe it's worth a listen.
with the time the only default i found to those speakers is a bit of lack of extreme subs and the level of details is a bit disapointing sometimes and very hard on average mixes.
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Re: yes another speaker thread! upgrade time?
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2012, 06:32:56 pm »

You may want to add the new Focal SM9's to your list:

http://www.focalprofessional.com/en/sm9-line/sm9.php

I think it's going to be another month or two before they are released but from everything I read they sound very promising. 
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Re: yes another speaker thread! upgrade time?
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2012, 06:45:33 pm »

Sometimes there are some really good deals here:
http://app.audiogon.com/categories/16

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Re: yes another speaker thread! upgrade time?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2012, 10:48:16 am »

u know you want a pair of dunlavys :D
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Re: yes another speaker thread! upgrade time?
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2012, 11:02:32 am »

DO I need a sub with the iv-a?
also what is recommended placement and seating with them?
Of course there were two pairs of Iv-A forsale last summer and now nothing
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Re: yes another speaker thread! upgrade time?
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2012, 01:55:10 pm »

i don't use a sub with the IV/As
i used subs with my III/As (which was always hard for me to setup right)

my IV/As go down to 20Hz (maybe lower) in this little room. love it
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Re: yes another speaker thread! upgrade time?
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2012, 09:22:34 pm »

u know you want a pair of dunlavys :D

I'm now in a room with SV-IV's... still getting to know them (and the room of course). Still trying to lock in the low end which is tight (although maybe a little light from what I'm used to) but still loving them over all.
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Re: yes another speaker thread! upgrade time?
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2012, 11:32:40 pm »

Of course there were two pairs of Iv-A forsale last summer and now nothing

IVa  3k - http://app.audiogon.com/listings/465634
V  5K - http://app.audiogon.com/listings/456563
V  8.5K - http://app.audiogon.com/listings/456342

There's 802's as well .. ATC 50's

I think Tom might have a pair of IVa's for sale  www.thomaseaton.com

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Re: yes another speaker thread! upgrade time?
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2012, 07:45:30 am »

IVa  3k - http://app.audiogon.com/listings/465634

Thanks.I found that the other day as well but they are not actually the 'a's.
I am leaning towards an option from Geithain out of the blue
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Re: yes another speaker thread! upgrade time?
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2012, 01:12:11 pm »

Tyler Decade D1's -- Far and away, my new favorite speaker.  I could go on for hours, but I'll skip that at the moment... 

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