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I just LOVE these mics...!
« on: January 11, 2011, 03:25:42 pm »

This isn't really a constructive 'recording tips' thread, but it might suit the vibe here in Nicholas' personal blo.... -I mean Fletcher's forum. Wink

-I've been doing a fair amount of Classical and ensemble location stuff recently, invariably using a couple of the Sennheiser MKH-800's, which I borrowed from a friendly engineer.

They're dark-sounding. -And rich, like swimming in chocolate.

One recently came up for sale locally... I couldn't resist. -Then I found out that was DEEPLY in love with the bloody things, so my purchasing got a bit out of hand...

I've got a large British brass band project coming up in a couple of months, that I anticipate these will be LOVELY for...

I lined a few up the other day, before I gave my friend his mics back...

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-Don't they look GORGEOUS!  Twisted Evil

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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2011, 04:04:56 pm »

So are Cybermen your favourite DW baddies?
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2011, 04:27:42 pm »

KB_S1 wrote on Tue, 11 January 2011 16:04

So are Cybermen your favourite DW baddies?



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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2011, 05:24:30 pm »

Sorry to go OT, but Cybermen are pantywaists.

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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2011, 06:40:57 pm »

Dan, that made me laugh out loud. A good friend of mine from Manchester uses the expression 'pantywaister'

Never heard it from across the pond before

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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2011, 06:51:49 pm »

Don't blink.

(My wife's favourite, by the way...)
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2011, 09:57:56 pm »

I like some of the Sennheiser MKH mics but I've never appreciated the 800s.  What am I missing?

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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2011, 10:38:27 pm »

Interesting that Sennheiser describes the mic as the first designed for 96kHz recording and rates it out to 50kHz.  

The MKH 50 and 60 are staples of film and video location recording being a good indoor hyper-cardiod and short shotgun respectively.
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2011, 10:42:21 pm »

IIRC, the 800 was the Enya vocal mic.

As to the film/tv world, you can also include the MKH 70.

It "replaces" the MKH816.

Unfortunately...it isn't as good as an 816.

The MKH60 is on a par with the older MKH416...different animals, but equally good.

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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2011, 07:41:18 am »

I feel that the MKH60 sounds very dull, uninspiring and somehow low resolution.

The MKH418S is heaps better and still gives you just what you need and nothing else (i.e. the actual dialogue you're pointing at and not everything around it, and no extreme lows or highs). That is, unless you record the side signal of course. Smile
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2011, 08:13:55 am »

Barry Hufker wrote

I like some of the Sennheiser MKH mics but I've never appreciated the 800s.  What am I missing?



Speaking for myself, they work very well in Omni and Fig-8. -Try them as flank-omnis, for example.

Also, with stuff like UK-style brass bands, where you really don't want the brightness to gang up on you, and you need some of that 'strength' in the low-end, they can be most mighty.

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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2011, 08:19:20 am »

Is there any difference in sound between this version and the 'Twin' version?

Just been having a look at some. Nice they may be but you don't want to be getting into a purchase frenzy with them!
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2011, 08:25:05 am »

I was looking at a couple of the twins... With a clever mount and a pair of those, you can matrix a 2-axis B-format, and generate W, X and Y outputs. From that, you can feed it into something like David McGriffey's VVM program, and generate any combination of output patterns...

For example, you could get L, C, R, Ls and Rs outputs, and generate a sub feed from whatever sounds good...

http://mcgriffy.com/audio/ambisonic/vvmic/

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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2011, 08:42:25 am »

Tomas Danko wrote on Wed, 12 January 2011 20:41

I feel that the MKH60 sounds very dull, uninspiring and somehow low resolution.



Tomas,

Have you tried the various switch combinations?

There is a "Neumann mode" which I find a tad underwhelming...perhaps you have inadvertently stumbled upon that.

The 60 has fantastic midrange, and is really good for nasty horrible retail reads, but can also be very smooth for more corporate reads.

On location, I find the reach is about the same as a 416, but isn't quite as good off axis. It certainly makes you more aware of positioning. I also find that it doesn't quite have the same output as a 416...but the 416 is blisteringly loud.

As to the 418S...I've always recorded the side signal, as I find it can make a recording too dry without it....but that's a personal taste issue - I prefer a little more sense of space in my recordings.

Obviously YMMV.

Very Happy

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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2011, 09:42:41 am »

Tim Halligan wrote on Wed, 12 January 2011 13:42

Tomas Danko wrote on Wed, 12 January 2011 20:41

I feel that the MKH60 sounds very dull, uninspiring and somehow low resolution.


Have you tried the various switch combinations?

There is a "Neumann mode" which I find a tad underwhelming...perhaps you have inadvertently stumbled upon that.

The 60 has fantastic midrange, and is really good for nasty horrible retail reads, but can also be very smooth for more corporate reads.

On location, I find the reach is about the same as a 416, but isn't quite as good off axis. It certainly makes you more aware of positioning. I also find that it doesn't quite have the same output as a 416...but the 416 is blisteringly loud.

As to the 418S...I've always recorded the side signal, as I find it can make a recording too dry without it....but that's a personal taste issue - I prefer a little more sense of space in my recordings.


Yes, I've tried everything with/on the MKH60 and it's just not for me. But for what it's worth, it did make everything sound just like on TV. hehe

The "dry studio room" sound from the M signal coming out of the 418S is exactly why I dig the mic!

I've recorded about 80 hours of outdoor VO over a total of five months period and the 418S won the shoot out hands down (I had a bunch of microphones to test record with before I went into production).

The idea was not to get an "outdoor" echoish sound, it was all about getting rid of a room with walls.
I can stand ten meter away from the actors with the 418S and if I trim away the reverb end tail, people don't believe it wasn't recorded in a super dry studio room.

On good days I even got around -65 to -72 dB RMS of s/n ratio, and this is outdoors!

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« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2011, 10:27:50 am »

Tomas Danko wrote on Wed, 12 January 2011 08:42


Yes, I've tried everything with/on the MKH60 and it's just not for me. But for what it's worth, it did make everything sound just like on TV. hehe


That's what it is supposed to sound like.  The 416 is the same way - not technically awesome sound by studio standards, but very familiar and reassuring sounding.  

I just got the AT Schoeps CMC knockoffs delivered and am curious to see how they perform for indoor dialog.  I'm not expecting them to match the German mics, but the advice I've gotten says they are much better than their 1/3 the cost would suggest.
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« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2011, 10:29:42 am »

ssltech wrote on Wed, 12 January 2011 07:25

I was looking at a couple of the twins... With a clever mount and a pair of those, you can matrix a 2-axis B-format, and generate W, X and Y outputs. From that, you can feed it into something like David McGriffey's VVM program, and generate any combination of output patterns...

For example, you could get L, C, R, Ls and Rs outputs, and generate a sub feed from whatever sounds good...

http://mcgriffy.com/audio/ambisonic/vvmic/

Keith



Keith, have you made any recordings like this?  
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« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2011, 10:55:28 am »

cgc wrote on Wed, 12 January 2011 15:27

Tomas Danko wrote on Wed, 12 January 2011 08:42


Yes, I've tried everything with/on the MKH60 and it's just not for me. But for what it's worth, it did make everything sound just like on TV. hehe


That's what it is supposed to sound like.  The 416 is the same way - not technically awesome sound by studio standards, but very familiar and reassuring sounding.  

I just got the AT Schoeps CMC knockoffs delivered and am curious to see how they perform for indoor dialog.  I'm not expecting them to match the German mics, but the advice I've gotten says they are much better than their 1/3 the cost would suggest.

For in door/studio VO recording I've pretty much resorted to using only Rode K2's the last eight years or so. It just works, sounds great on every actor/source, and they're reliable and cheap. K2 and API 3124+ mic preamps and I can forget about gear and just get on with the real work.

Although I'm probably going to get a couple of DPA 4061 (low sensitivity) for ADR work in order to get the audio to fit better with MOCAP VO sessions (using DPA 4061 stuck on the helmet of the motion capture actor).
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« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2011, 11:19:19 am »

cgc wrote

Keith, have you made any recordings like this?


Not using the 800-twin, but I did build my own microphone/PSU/preamp/controller, with the matrixing also in the box, to do exactly that... I used larger diameter capsules, to allow for a 'choice' as opposed to the SoundFields which I also had. (I still have one...)

Took it up to Bruce Swedien's studio a little while ago, and we enjoyed playing around with it. -It works quite well on close-up sources, though it sounds "too far away" quite early on. -Not much 'reach', in fact, though for stereo backing vocals etc, it can be most impressive.

Mick Glossop had it for the last couple of months; he was using it on his current project.

Some pics from the build, if anyone's interested:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/SSLtech/05-B-Format_Silhouette-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/SSLtech/04-B-Format_Capsules.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/SSLtech/a06_Connector-End.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/SSLtech/a09_top_saddle_mount.jpg

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« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2011, 01:25:46 pm »

Tomas

The AT mics are for boom work - the K2 would be a bit much at the end of three feet of pole!

Keith

That is wild, man, just wild.  

I get requests to record 'surround' audio for live events and haven't run across anything that looks usable for less than mega-bucks.
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« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2011, 01:42:13 pm »

That's cool Keith!

Did you use a ribbon mic body for it?

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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2011, 05:10:14 pm »

Keith, let me add (speaking for all us burnt-fingered fumblers everywhere), MAN you do nice work!

I'd just like for my fingerprints to grow back someday....


Whose capsules did you use?
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« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2011, 05:21:06 pm »

Barkley McKay wrote on Wed, 12 January 2011 13:42

That's cool Keith!

Did you use a ribbon mic body for it?

barks

Good eye, Barks!

Yes, the ribbon mic body was plenty tall enough for the "tower-o-capsules", and the body allowed all 4 channels of circuitry to fit inside -just- if I stacked the circuit boards 'triple-deck' (4 decks if you count the connector).

I used the same 12-pin connector as the SoundField mics, so that I could use the same cables, since I have a 350ft run, a 100ft run and a couple of 25-foot and 12-foot cables.

the circuit boards were the first time I've ever built things on circular PCBs... the home-etched 'proof of concept' circuit boards shown in the pics were a bit of a mess, but I did make some "proper" versions made, for in case I ever make a second one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/SSLtech/a01_Circuit_Boards.jpg

Thanks for the complement burp182, -I'm just a madman at heart!

I have a couple of K67 capsules which I'm either going to put into that mic, or just leave the current ones in there... right now it has the Peluso K67-types, which seem to work fairly well, though I might see if the genuine Neumann capsules work any better.

...Or maybe I'll just build up a whole second one, if I get another ribbon body. -I have the circuit boards; all I need to make is the capsule mount arrangement, grab another set oc components and connector, and go through the madness a second time... -We'll see.

Keith
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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2011, 05:33:34 pm »

Great build Keith.

WRT your 'reach' issue. Did you note Oliver's point about the effect that the rubber capsule mount curing could have on the microphones reach?
Somewhere in the WW New mic thread.
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« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2011, 10:04:16 am »

Wow bro, thanks for sharing!!! cool thread!!

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« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2011, 11:15:33 am »

Man Keith, your handiwork is astounding!

Nice job - I'd be interested to know how the Neumann KK67 capsules sound in contrast to the Peluso's.

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« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2011, 11:47:53 am »

I'm flattered... but also EXTREMELY fortunate, in many ways. -As well as living local to luminaries such as Bruce, there are lots of other very cool things nearby, and my colleagues at work seem to enjoy meeting the eventual fruits of my madness.

As another example; around the time that I made the microphone, I had been doing a lot of work with the Bach Festival Society choir. Shortly after finishing the mic, the choir was invited to sing Beethoven's 9th with the London Symphony Orchestra, who were playing a concert series at Daytona, at the Peabody Center.

-So I went along to a final rehearsal and made a side-by-side comparison recording with the SoundField mic and the 'Keef' mic directly atop one another, and recorded the B-format outputs of both to parallel track groups.

For that one, the Calrec Soundfield sounded much better.

But for up-close work, the 'Keef' version (being LDCs of course) generally sounds much stronger and 'bigger'.

That's what I'm describing as 'reach'... I looked at Oliver's post about the rubber and the capsule's 'reach', and I wonder if he's referring to its range of motion in response to shocks/bumps or tilting, whereas I'm using the term to refer to the mic's ability to "hear forwards", so to speak.

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« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2011, 11:54:53 am »

Quoting Oliver from the other thread:

"I pointed out before that the reach of the CS-1 is not just the capsule alone, it is also the dampening of this type of RTV (55 shore hardness) for particular frequencies. With enlarging or reducing the rubber area the "Reach" can be changed."

I read that to mean that the mounting of the capsule does affect its acoustic properties. How this occurs, I do not know.
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« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2011, 12:03:34 pm »

Yes, I confess that I can't get my head around that, either.

Instead, I assumed that he MIGHT have been referring to a resonance which determines the capsule assembly's range of motion, which I think would be an important consideration for shipping/transit abuse.

-For my mic, I'm more paranoid about the (now doubled!) mass of the capsule arrangement, and the fact that its center of gravity is now further away from the curved plastic 'arc' saddle might cause the saddle to break, if a large bump or similar mechanical trauma were applied... -If I could get three METAL saddles, (one for the bottom, and two for the bit in between the two capsules) then I'd feel MUCH more comfortable.

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« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2011, 12:19:15 pm »

On pics 1 & 4 there appears to be a difference in the base mount of the capsule assembly.
Is this correct? It looks to me like there is more rubber involved in pic 4.

I am trying to come up with an elegant idea for providing more secure fixing but without affecting the resonance or mass of the assembly.
Funnily enough it is not easy.

Is there any scope for a 'door stop' style safety on the grill itself? Just a little pair of rubber points that would only ever touch the top of the assembly if it did make an over excursion due to a knock or sudden shake.
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« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2011, 12:44:41 pm »

KB_S1 wrote on Thu, 13 January 2011 17:19

Is there any scope for a 'door stop' style safety on the grill itself? Just a little pair of rubber points that would only ever touch the top of the assembly if it did make an over excursion due to a knock or sudden shake.




If there is a protective top collar available for these capsules, such as is fitted to the Neumann K87, I would have thought it would do the job, no?

Not to say a nice fat rubber arrangement might not be more pleasing, of course.  Smile


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« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2011, 12:45:25 pm »

Yes, the first couple of pictures actually show a U87 base, which was used as a tool for experimentation early on. The later photos show the combination which was arrived at as a result.

A top collar would work for 'oscillative' motion, but wouldn't do any good if the bottom saddle broke, which would leave the capsules free to dance around, with the thin diaphragm wires like slack puppet-strings.

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« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2011, 12:52:26 pm »

ssltech wrote on Thu, 13 January 2011 17:45

A top collar would work for 'oscillative' motion, but wouldn't do any good if the bottom saddle broke, which would leave the capsules free to dance around, with the thin diaphragm wires like slack puppet-strings.




Absolutely - so, metal saddles the way to go then?

Very impressive build, btw!

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Re: I just LOVE these mics...!
« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2011, 01:18:07 pm »

If I can find some, then that's what I'll do, for sure.

-Of course by then I might just as well make the whole thing a "version three" build. (the one you're looking at is in fact version 2... the original version 1 was built into a brass handrail, but the capsule fit was just TOO tight!

Pics of the connector end of Version 1 (which was tight ENOUGH... even before I struggled at the capsule end!):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/SSLtech/01-Mic-Metalwork.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/SSLtech/02-Mic-Inside.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/SSLtech/03-Mic-Bottom.jpg

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MDM (maxdimario) wrote on Fri, 16 November 2007 21:36

I have the feeling that I have more experience in my little finger than you do in your whole body about audio electronics..
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