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Bubba#$%Kron

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Re: "We can no longer take risks..."
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2010, 11:20:57 pm »

Its the same as if you went into Mcdonalds headquarters and tried to push "your" new hamburger idea on them!!   Even if you could supply Filet Mignon's for cheaper than what they get meat for now, and ask to take a ridiculously low cut of profits- they would still tell you fuck off!!!!      As long as they control the distribution channels, they control the game!!

Sure we have ways of doing self promotion these days, but its still like trying to compete with Mcdonalds with 30 Hamburger stands in their sea of 100,000 locations.    Musicians are like super models now, they just so happen to be a pretty face, sound good, and follow directions well- they are all industry trash from stage moms/dads!!     Isn't technology awesome?!?!?
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Re: "We can no longer take risks..."
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2010, 09:39:01 am »

Fletcher wrote on Sat, 11 December 2010 14:23

This link was sent to me by my entertainment attorney...


"As your (entertainment) attorney, I advise you to take a hit out of the little brown bottle in my shaving kit. You won't need much, just a tiny taste."


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Re: "We can no longer take risks..."
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2010, 07:55:52 pm »

Tomas Danko wrote on Sun, 12 December 2010 11:52

Fenris Wulf wrote on Sun, 12 December 2010 07:20

And has anyone noticed that digital speech synthesis doesn't sound any more natural than it did 25 years ago?


This is totally not true.

Check out Phonetic Arts and some of their tech-demo.

I found it. Now I'm frightened.  Shocked  Wait until ClearChannel gets hold of this. They've already replaced local DJ's with pre-recorded DJ's, now they can replace pre-recorded DJ's with computers. They can even use computer-generated text and replace political commentators. Nobody will notice the difference.
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Re: "We can no longer take risks..."
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2010, 08:25:35 am »

MagnetoSound wrote on Sun, 12 December 2010 12:01

Tomas Danko wrote on Sun, 12 December 2010 11:52

it sounds like Bill Clinton telling you where to go and what to do.




Ooh ... just the way I like it.  Sad





Ha! Smile

Well, it was a tech demo where you walked around in a 3D town and the VO told you hints about where places were and so on. I figure they used his voice because 1. there is a lot of recorded material to use in order to train the engine, 2. his voice is very unique and 3. his voice is very well known.

I can only imagine what other stuff they did with the engine and his character, that never made it outside the lab.

-:Let's see if the engine matches up well with some TV recordings, so enter these words: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman...""  Twisted Evil
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Re: "We can no longer take risks..."
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2010, 02:38:00 pm »

Fenris Wulf wrote on Wed, 15 December 2010 16:55

Tomas Danko wrote on Sun, 12 December 2010 11:52

Fenris Wulf wrote on Sun, 12 December 2010 07:20

And has anyone noticed that digital speech synthesis doesn't sound any more natural than it did 25 years ago?


This is totally not true.

Check out Phonetic Arts and some of their tech-demo.

I found it. Now I'm frightened.  Shocked  Wait until ClearChannel gets hold of this. They've already replaced local DJ's with pre-recorded DJ's, now they can replace pre-recorded DJ's with computers. They can even use computer-generated text and replace political commentators. Nobody will notice the difference.


Yes, and they've just been acquired by Google. Now we're really screwed!
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Re: "We can no longer take risks..."
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2010, 02:44:54 pm »

Spindrift wrote on Thu, 16 December 2010 19:38

Fenris Wulf wrote on Wed, 15 December 2010 16:55

Tomas Danko wrote on Sun, 12 December 2010 11:52

Fenris Wulf wrote on Sun, 12 December 2010 07:20

And has anyone noticed that digital speech synthesis doesn't sound any more natural than it did 25 years ago?


This is totally not true.

Check out Phonetic Arts and some of their tech-demo.

I found it. Now I'm frightened.  Shocked  Wait until ClearChannel gets hold of this. They've already replaced local DJ's with pre-recorded DJ's, now they can replace pre-recorded DJ's with computers. They can even use computer-generated text and replace political commentators. Nobody will notice the difference.


Yes, and they've just been acquired by Google. Now we're really screwed!


DON'T BE EVIL!  Shocked


Anyway, we bought like ten licenses and we're about to look into getting a deal on a huge license pool (hundreds and hundreds). Perhaps this won't be possible with the new owner, as opposed to a small private company.
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Re: "We can no longer take risks..."
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2010, 05:41:12 pm »

Wireline wrote on Sat, 11 December 2010 08:12


Not a rant - a question, because I honestly do not understand the thought processes behind racing down the proven highway to obsolescence.
You are not allowed to put "thought process" and "record company" in the same sentence...
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Re: "We can no longer take risks..."
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2010, 12:03:15 pm »

Wireline wrote on Sat, 11 December 2010 07:52

Tim Halligan wrote on Sat, 11 December 2010 09:50

Wireline wrote on Sat, 11 December 2010 22:12


What is holding them back from changing the way they conduct business?

Fear.

Cheers,
Tim

Of what - being successful?

Of failing to justify their bonuses before failing upwards to their next career.
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Re: "We can no longer take risks..."
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2010, 01:17:21 pm »

Meanwhile...

There is absolutely nothing about the music business of 1985 or so that wasn't better for musicians, producers, engineers, songwriters, and the listening public than what we have now

Say whatever you want about record labels...
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Re: "We can no longer take risks..."
« Reply #24 on: December 25, 2010, 06:52:02 am »

Same as it ever was?
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Re: "We can no longer take risks..."
« Reply #25 on: December 25, 2010, 01:05:24 pm »

wwittman wrote on Fri, 24 December 2010 10:17

Meanwhile...

There is absolutely nothing about the music business of 1985 or so that wasn't better for musicians, producers, engineers, songwriters, and the listening public than what we have now

Say whatever you want about record labels...

1985 is another century - to some extent just before Wall Street discovered that records were a better risk than movies.
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Re: "We can no longer take risks..."
« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2010, 10:34:27 pm »

And shortly after Reagan ended the record master tax shelter.
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Re: "We can no longer take risks..."
« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2010, 12:23:21 pm »

A good buddy of mine is head of A&R for a minor major label. 2009 was the first year in memory that this label has lost money. The head honcho, who essentially inherited the label, is freaking out - he tells A&R "Only bring me artists with name recoginition". So my buddy does that and it's the biggest seller for them for 2010.

In conversation about the present attitude my pal says, "I guess rich people just aren't that hungry".

Amen. What's the new label development paradigm? Don't plow the field, nor plant the seeds, nor water the crop and tend to the weeds, just show up for the harvest.

Yeah, that'll be the ticket... to irrelevant oblivion.
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