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MagnetoSound

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Re: I have access to a REAL console, is it worth it??
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2010, 09:00:36 AM »

Bubba Kron wrote on Wed, 08 December 2010 23:57

      2)  Is API good for mixing? Will mixing on an API destroy the sonic imprint of my neve tracks??




Two entirely separate questions.


Yes,

and No.


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Re: I have access to a REAL console, is it worth it??
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2010, 12:00:21 PM »

Big Fish is Paul Waroff's place down in Olivinhein. It's a nice place on a large rural lot with lot's of ambiance. It's also a tony zone, multi-million dollar homes in there. No dangers of urban mixing there, only the chickens will wake you up.

He does have a large 48 channel API, nicely maintained. The group assign modules were custom one-off Paul Wolff designed with crappy select switches that no longer work. I'm attempting to re manufacture replacements for them.

He has EMT plates, but no Bricasti, I might loan him mine to check out.

He has done most of the Blink 182 stuff there and plenty more. He knows what he's doing there. It's a rock mix room known for gluey mush rather than pristine reality which is my forte. You can obtain first rate rock mixes there, if you budget accordingly.

He also has a prototype 500 mic pre module of mine there right now with a class A opamp design, no coupling caps, no servos, Jensen transformer, real sweet and extremely quiet.

Say "hi" for me!
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Re: I have access to a REAL console, is it worth it??
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2010, 06:32:48 PM »

Go ahead and mix on a console.

Then, report back your impressions!

Cheers,
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Re: I have access to a REAL console, is it worth it??
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2010, 07:29:43 PM »

Wireline's questions speak wisdom that should be heeded....
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Re: I have access to a REAL console, is it worth it??
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2010, 02:57:10 AM »


I think the score is renting the studio for a mixdown, not take over the place.
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Re: I have access to a REAL console, is it worth it??
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2010, 09:02:08 AM »

Seb Riou wrote on Sat, 11 December 2010 01:57


I think the score is renting the studio for a mixdown, not take over the place.


That being the case, disregard everything I said.  Have a great time, and please  tell us your findings.
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Re: I have access to a REAL console, is it worth it??
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2010, 01:42:28 AM »

Hi,

The way I see it, you have the following two options:

1.- Mix in your place.

2.- Mix at their place.

As to the results, well, who is going to mix?

If :

A.- You. Then it will not be as good as mixing on your known equipment.

B.- Someone else. Preferably someone who knows that control room like the back of their hand. Better than you mixing in an unknown room with an unknown console and equipment.


As an example, I mixed 8 songs ITB for a friend of mine, and then compared them to his mixes done on a classic Neve and tons of outboard gear.

His mixes : CACA. Mushy, smelly, fuzzy, CACA.

My mixes : Listenable. Not amazing, but certainly not CACA.

Cheers
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Re: I have access to a REAL console, is it worth it??
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2010, 11:30:14 PM »

You guys rock!! Thanks for the responses!!  All good stuff!!!!
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