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wwittman

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Re: DSD is the worst thing that ever happened to music.
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2010, 03:18:23 AM »

Oh
I thought the thread was going to be about Damned Steely Dan... Now that IS the worst thing that happened to music


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Re: DSD is the worst thing that ever happened to music.
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2010, 06:56:37 AM »

wwittman wrote on Fri, 10 December 2010 08:18

Oh
I thought the thread was going to be about Damned Steely Dan... Now that IS the worst thing that happened to music


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Then it must be so, that Steely Dan on DSD is the ultimately worst thing that ever happened to music. Just throw in a bunch of extra IC's to please Italy, and you're golden.
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Re: DSD is the worst thing that ever happened to music.
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2010, 11:20:35 AM »

http://www.astralwerks.com/eno/reissue.html

ATR -> DSD with no EQ according to that page.  I love those albums, but they are not really super slick and polished sounding records compared to other releases of the day.  Then again that is far from the point of those records.
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Re: DSD is the worst thing that ever happened to music.
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2010, 01:30:32 AM »

Silvertone wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 17:00

Can't agree here.  Maybe the Eno and PG transfers were handled wrong but the Korg DSD recorder sounds just like the output of the console! It's amazing.  

I mixed a song for Tony Levin on his last record and I used a friends DSD recorder to mix to (and later, master off of it). After using it I just had to have one... it is the best digital mix down format I've ever heard.


No. No. And, no.

Breathe(r) is not talking at all about DSD. This is his "Red Herring".

He is complaining that one of his Peter Gabriel Vinyl discs got scratched by him, and that to replace it it will take money and effort on his part.

So, to feel better he has come here again to blabber on about something.

It is entertaining to me, in an illogical way.

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Re: DSD is the worst thing that ever happened to music.
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2010, 06:05:32 AM »

Nick Sevilla wrote on Sun, 12 December 2010 14:30


It is entertaining to me, in an illogical way.





...says the man with Spock as his avatar.


Laughing


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Re: DSD is the worst thing that ever happened to music.
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2010, 06:55:38 AM »


Ah, Nick has been quite the logician this past day or so.


Great avatar.

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Re: DSD is the worst thing that ever happened to music.
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2010, 05:53:20 PM »

Tim Halligan wrote on Wed, 08 December 2010 10:38

...Perhaps you should spend some time with the format before you open your mouth and shoot yourself in the foot...again.

I have heard some DSD material and it is STUNNINGLY good.

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Well put, Tim.

Having used the MR2000S as a mixdown deck for over a year, I'd have to say if a recording coming off DSD sounds "still and lifeless", it ain't likely to be the recording format that's the problem.  Shocked

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Re: DSD is the worst thing that ever happened to music.
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2010, 10:34:03 AM »

DSDSD.

I'm going have to say, that Gaucho in 5.1 on SACD is mind boggling.

If you care anything about music and production, I feel sorry for you if you can't appreciate that.  Life long lessons, man!
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Re: DSD is the worst thing that ever happened to music.
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2010, 11:15:23 AM »

wwittman wrote on Fri, 10 December 2010 00:18

Oh
I thought the thread was going to be about Damned Steely Dan... Now that IS the worst thing that happened to music


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What? You can't relate to west coast "wine and cheese" pop music?
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Re: DSD is the worst thing that ever happened to music.
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2010, 11:18:51 AM »

MagnetoSound wrote on Sun, 12 December 2010 03:55


Ah, Nick has been quite the logician this past day or so.


Great avatar.




"Live Long And Prosper"...

I've been on a S.T. kick the last few days. I got the original series on DVD...
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Re: DSD is the worst thing that ever happened to music.
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2010, 11:20:57 AM »

wwittman wrote on Fri, 10 December 2010 00:18

Oh
I thought the thread was going to be about Damned Steely Dan... Now that IS the worst thing that happened to music


Twisted Evil


Maybe. But one of their engineers was my mentor for a time. Brilliant engineer.

It is always good to know as many aspects of record making as possible.

In this way you can choose which one best fits the situation.

Logically.
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Re: DSD is the worst thing that ever happened to music.
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2010, 05:40:54 PM »

Nick Sevilla wrote on Mon, 13 December 2010 11:20

wwittman wrote on Fri, 10 December 2010 00:18

Oh
I thought the thread was going to be about Damned Steely Dan... Now that IS the worst thing that happened to music


Twisted Evil


Maybe. But one of their engineers was my mentor for a time. Brilliant engineer.

It is always good to know as many aspects of record making as possible.

In this way you can choose which one best fits the situation.

Logically.



sigh.

as a primer on 'what not to do' I suppose...

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Re: DSD is the worst thing that ever happened to music.
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2010, 08:26:51 PM »

I know that I've encountered plenty of people who lump Steely Dan in with The Eagles in terms of the over-sanitized recording approach.

Which makes me wonder, William -since I know your opinion on Steely Dan- where would you stand on The Eagles?

(-On their windpipes, I'd imagine!)

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Re: DSD is the worst thing that ever happened to music.
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2010, 08:31:29 PM »

wwittman wrote on Mon, 13 December 2010 14:40

Nick Sevilla wrote on Mon, 13 December 2010 11:20

wwittman wrote on Fri, 10 December 2010 00:18

Oh
I thought the thread was going to be about Damned Steely Dan... Now that IS the worst thing that happened to music


Twisted Evil


Maybe. But one of their engineers was my mentor for a time. Brilliant engineer.

It is always good to know as many aspects of record making as possible.

In this way you can choose which one best fits the situation.

Logically.



sigh.

as a primer on 'what not to do' I suppose...




Not really... it does help to know some extremes on recording techniques.

My friend's favorite keyword was "FOCUS"... as in focus the sound.

As to me, I like and dislike the S.D. records. But probably for different reasons than you.

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Re: DSD is the worst thing that ever happened to music.
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2010, 08:58:40 PM »

Not a huge SD or Eagles fan, but making things sound that way is *hard*. Not only that, getting musicians that good in my room - hasn't happened yet.

I know you guys have been a lot luckier in terms of working with quality musicians in better studios and focusing on quality results.

Now that I (ostensibly) know what I'm doing, everything I hear has a level of "shit, that's hard!" to it.

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