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Re: Virtalähde Mastering, Finland - the build thread
« Reply #60 on: October 16, 2010, 05:17:01 pm »

Very nice progress Jaakko!
What you are doing to that barn is really something else!
Im glad for you, this is really inspiring, as you know i have similar ideas leaving the city, its a few years away... and if i can come close or even half to what you are achieving here it would definitely  be worth it...




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Re: Virtalähde Mastering, Finland - the build thread
« Reply #61 on: October 17, 2010, 07:42:08 am »

Larrchild wrote on Sat, 16 October 2010 23:52

Nice that the sub-ceiling beam abuts the main log. Good idea for later.
Keeping some old wall is a decent compromise and retains a little original surface which seems diffusive anyway. So nice! Framing shows shape as you say. Are the Finnish Finish Carpenters the same crew?


Yeah, I've been really pleased how the maximum space can be had and the geometry is good. Keeping the old wall visible really is an important feel factor to me.

The carpenters are indeed the same, throughout the job. I've been really happy about their work.

mastertone wrote on Sun, 17 October 2010 00:17

Very nice progress Jaakko!
What you are doing to that barn is really something else!
Im glad for you, this is really inspiring, as you know i have similar ideas leaving the city, its a few years away... and if i can come close or even half to what you are achieving here it would definitely  be worth it...


Thanks! And just go for it, don't be afraid when you see the opportunity.
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Jaakko Viitalähde
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Re: Virtalähde Mastering, Finland - the build thread
« Reply #62 on: October 17, 2010, 08:01:53 am »

This looks like a great build, and in a beautiful location too!

I'm sure it's going to be amazing when it's done, all the best of luck with it.
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Re: Virtalähde Mastering, Finland - the build thread
« Reply #63 on: October 17, 2010, 10:04:43 am »

I have two questions; aren't you concerned about water coming off the driveway in front of the building and causing problems?  I know you have a system in place to protect from the water, but neither the system or your foundation seem to go below the frost-line.  I'm also wondering how the styrofoam laying on the ground can/will prevent water from soaking the ground below them, or maybe I'm missing something.

My other question is about all the (untreated and unprotected) bottom plates that seem to be sitting directly on the concrete slab, is that okay?
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Re: Virtalähde Mastering, Finland - the build thread
« Reply #64 on: October 17, 2010, 10:51:36 am »

Samc wrote on Sun, 17 October 2010 17:04

aren't you concerned about water coming off the driveway in front of the building and causing problems?


Tried & tested during the spring, when the work hadn't even started. We had a lot of snow last winter, and all of it melted within a few weeks. I found practically zero water coming inside the building (or standing in front of the building), so my assumption is that the ground soaks it and it travels away deep below.

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I know you have a system in place to protect from the water, but neither the system or your foundation seem to go below the frost-line.  I'm also wondering how the styrofoam laying on the ground can/will prevent water from soaking the ground below them, or maybe I'm missing something.


First of all, the building has been standing steady on its place for decades with no underdrains and no renovation. That proves something. Last winter was also a great test with record-braking ground frost depths going metres down. Honestly, a lot of old buildings like this collapsed for good last winter. I'm pretty proud to see this one standing straight.

The underdrain thing is how they're build here, and they just seem to work. I don't know what else to say to that. The styrofoam on top is angled, and its purpose (besides from slight insulation) is to steer the surface water towards the underdrains. The soil around the underdrains is also changed in ths type of construction to soil that cuts the capillary action (water climbing up), but lets the water go through to the drains.

For deeper ground water there of course is no solution. The system keeps the surrounding of the building dry(er) so the water doesn't soak up the soil, freeze during the winter and break the building. The deeper water flows how it wants to, and doesn't freeze during the winter.

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My other question is about all the (untreated and unprotected) bottom plates that seem to be sitting directly on the concrete slab, is that okay?


Do you mean the base of the wooden frame? It's definately OK to be sitting on the concrete slab, perfectly normal. The slab is warm, dry and insulated, and the wood is protected from any outside rainwater and such.
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Re: Virtalähde Mastering, Finland - the build thread
« Reply #65 on: October 24, 2010, 01:03:54 pm »

OK, just a few photos for today. The insulation on the angled roof is done, and it was a little bit tricky one to do.

The thermal insulation in that structure is done with polyurethane foam sheets, because they are much more effective in insulation vs. thickness. If it was done with wool, the ceiling height would've dropped a little too much.

http://www.virtalahde.com/2210_etupaa_oik.jpg
..You can also see the electricians have visited the site. Basic cabling has been run where I specified them to be at, nothing is connected yet.

http://www.virtalahde.com/2210_vinokatto1.jpg
http://www.virtalahde.com/2210_kattopiuha.jpg
..This cable is above up desk, it's gonna be for my working light. I'm thinking of this one:

http://www.lamppukauppa.fi/tuotteet/riippuvalaisimet-yksiosa iset/grandis-punainen

http://www.virtalahde.com/2210_vinokatto_takakulma1.jpg
http://www.virtalahde.com/2210_vinokatto_takakulma2.jpg
http://www.virtalahde.com/2210_vinokatto_ovi.jpg
..Looks well done to me! You can also see that some more of that brown stuff is installed on the upper back wall:

http://www.virtalahde.com/2210_takaseina1.jpg
..The room is now wind resistant from all angles!

The next step is to install the insulating wool all around the building. I think the basic drywall sheets can also be installed soon.





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Re: Virtalähde Mastering, Finland - the build thread
« Reply #66 on: October 24, 2010, 06:03:08 pm »

Looking great!


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Re: Virtalähde Mastering, Finland - the build thread
« Reply #67 on: October 24, 2010, 06:19:35 pm »

Nice progress!

Cool lamp. How will you do with the console? Sterling Mod. Or will you custom one?
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Re: Virtalähde Mastering, Finland - the build thread
« Reply #68 on: October 26, 2010, 10:10:05 am »

Viitalahde wrote on Mon, 11 October 2010 14:51

...The brown stuff on the old walls is for stopping the wind blowing inside the building and also for keeping any residual water & snow leaking through the old wall. The material has been used in Finnish building for decades, and it's just about as optimum as it gets for the purpose. ...


Could you give a name for this material?
At first it looked like cork but now i see it's quite different. What is it?
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Re: Virtalähde Mastering, Finland - the build thread
« Reply #69 on: October 31, 2010, 04:23:47 pm »

Time for an update! First I'll show you a few pics of the insulation wool installation, my wife took the pics during the middle of the week. I knew some of the details would be hidden before this weekend.

http://www.virtalahde.com/3110_villaa_ovi1.jpg

http://www.virtalahde.com/3110_villaa_etu1.jpg

http://www.virtalahde.com/3110_villaa_taka1.jpg

http://www.virtalahde.com/3110_villaa_taka2.jpg

http://www.virtalahde.com/3110_villaa_vasentaka1_kork.jpg

http://www.virtalahde.com/3110_villaa_hirsi1.jpg

http://www.virtalahde.com/3110_villaa_hylly2.jpg

..Looking good! I'm thinking how the insulation wool combined with the inner acoustics wool will both together work well as thermal insulation, too. This might be a pretty energy efficient build in keeping the place warm.
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Re: Virtalähde Mastering, Finland - the build thread
« Reply #70 on: October 31, 2010, 04:25:36 pm »

Now this is where we are today. All the insulation is in place, much of the tar paper (the black stuff) is in place - much better stuff than just wrapping the place up in plastic.

http://www.virtalahde.com/3110_ovi1.jpg

http://www.virtalahde.com/3110_oikeaetu1.jpg

..Notice the horizontal structure in the angled roof. This is for the upcoming drywall roof. We were also just talking about making sure this structure ventilates properly if it ever happens moisture builds up between the polyurethane and the drywall. The carpenter came up with a small, simple modification in the front that should take care of that.

http://www.virtalahde.com/3110_oikeasivu1.jpg

http://www.virtalahde.com/3110_oikeataka2.jpg

..Two drywall sheets in place for demonstration. They have a 9mm gap between them - this (as well as *all* such joints will be filled with elastic Tremseal mass. This makes sure the specified sound isolation/air tightness properties will also stay the same in the future.

http://www.virtalahde.com/3110_peraseina1.jpg

..There won't be any drywall in where that sheet and the wool package are. The triangular bass trap will be built there. Loads of wool = warm. And the bass stays in control! The height of the bass trap will be the same as the height of the two shelves, 180cm.

http://www.virtalahde.com/3110_vasentaka1.jpg

http://www.virtalahde.com/3110_aukko1.jpg

..This where the used air will go out through a pipe. We'll be trying good old gravity-based ventilation for starters. If it won't be enough, it's easy to add something to the system to help it out. With proper muffling, of course.

http://www.virtalahde.com/3110_hirsi1.jpg

..That thing is going to look awesome once finished. I'm thinking of having glass shelves there, possibly smoked glass. And they won't be holding one single lava lamp.

http://www.virtalahde.com/3110_katto_taka.jpg

We're a little bit behind the schedule, because some of the construction with the angled roof became a little tricky. but from here, the pace will only go up. Putting the drywall in place is pretty quick, and after that the construction for the inner frames such as the front wall and the machine closet begins.

I just ordered the floor material, along with other stuff. I came up with a cork floor - Wicanders Vinyl Comfort. Vinyl-covered cork floor, very nice printed wood-like texture with the softness of a cork floor.

  http://www.wicanders.com/client/documentos/brochuras/63146MT _Wicanders_Vinyl_Home-Com_INT_PQ_Crop_02_2010.pdf

Just about every laminate I held in my hands felt like crap, and a wooden floor is a bit tricky with floor heating.
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Re: Virtalähde Mastering, Finland - the build thread
« Reply #71 on: October 31, 2010, 04:32:02 pm »

mastertone wrote on Mon, 25 October 2010 01:19

How will you do with the console? Sterling Mod. Or will you custom one?


Custom one. Finally decided on the design, pretty Sterling Modulari-ish, but a bit simpler and not as chunky.

resolectric wrote on Tue, 26 October 2010 17:10

Could you give a name for this material?
At first it looked like cork but now i see it's quite different. What is it?


Wind barrier would be the english term, and I think it's made from pressed wood fibres. If it wets, it dries up, and it doesn't loose its wind stopping qualities from being wet.

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Re: Virtalähde Mastering, Finland - the build thread
« Reply #72 on: October 31, 2010, 04:59:49 pm »

Jaakko,

Forgive me for asking, especially if this has been asked before...

Your name is Viital
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Re: Virtalähde Mastering, Finland - the build thread
« Reply #73 on: October 31, 2010, 05:07:55 pm »

Barry Hufker wrote on Sun, 31 October 2010 22:59

Your name is Viital
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Re: Virtalähde Mastering, Finland - the build thread
« Reply #74 on: October 31, 2010, 08:05:09 pm »

Viitalahde wrote on Sun, 31 October 2010 14:07


It's dumb and confusing, but at this point, I'm just going to leave it like that.



I'm enjoying your build pictures but have always had a question:

How do you pronounce your name?  

When I read it my mental voice says "virtual head," but I don't think that is the correct way.


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