Topic: Gearslutz (Read 10865 times)

JGauthier · « **on:** August 16, 2010, 01:20:39 PM »

Ive been actually working and installing/building out and have missed much of the online ridiculousness for months now.

Today I went to Gearslutz, these were the first 4 threads I read-

1. I have an API 2500, fatso and Adesigns nail and something else expensive but Im worried I shouldn't use them on the 2 bus until I spend 5 grand on converters...

2. The behringer verb is as good as the bricasti and... POSTED MP3 SAMPLES! The best is many posters are applauding his attempt to "mix it up"... But then they instantly disagree with his findings. They are encouraging ignorant trolling as usual. I love the M7 cause its so expensive it pisses people off!

3. Protools has a mid hump which gives it a nice midrange clarity.

4. If you wear glasses during mixing will you suffer from the reflections off your glasses...?

I admit Ive talked a lot of shit on gearslutz prior, but I wouldn't have the time to respond to sooooooo many ridiculous threads...

So in closing I would like to describe the typical GS mix session-

So my Bricasti went down and I was lucky enough to have a Behringer verb on hand- whew! I just made some tweeks and voila- exactly the same. The clarity the verb now presented showed me I could hear the cheap 192 converters on my main bus... So I removed the fatso, api2500, adesigns nail and eq inserts so the conversion to analog would no longer affect my bus signal. Strangely there was still something interfering with my beautiful protools midrange, like tape but much better, and I realized it was the reflections off my glasses! I had been struggling with this mix for 2 weeks and all the time it wasn't me or my skill- it was those damn glasses! So though I can no longer identify faders or see most ANYTHING, my mix sounds amazing! Sadly I can't find the folder I saved it in... Can I put my glasses on when the mix isn't playing?

Gio · « **Reply #1 on:** August 16, 2010, 01:43:12 PM »

JGauthier wrote on Mon, 16 August 2010 13:20

4. If you wear glasses during mixing will you suffer from the reflections off your glasses...?

So that's been my problem all along!!!!

JGauthier · « **Reply #2 on:** August 16, 2010, 02:36:52 PM »

Gio wrote on Mon, 16 August 2010 10:43

JGauthier wrote on Mon, 16 August 2010 13:20

4. If you wear glasses during mixing will you suffer from the reflections off your glasses...?

So that's been my problem all along!!!!

Thats my favorite... 2nd is the protools mid range comment- you should see them debate it...

But Ive been working with real humans on actual projects, too busy for the internet other than my fish tank build... priorities, and to come back, log in and see that was just too much...

Glasses ruining mixes. Holy fucking sheep shit.

Anyone read Issac Asimov Foundations????

OR see the movie idiocracy... yep.

RMoore · « **Reply #3 on:** August 16, 2010, 04:03:46 PM »

JGauthier wrote on Mon, 16 August 2010 19:20

4. If you wear glasses during mixing will you suffer from the reflections off your glasses...?

Awesome

burp182 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 16, 2010, 04:57:18 PM »

Idiocracy was Mike Judge's look into the future.

Too bad it seems like the future happened about 20 minutes ago...

Podgorny · « **Reply #5 on:** August 16, 2010, 05:10:50 PM »

JGauthier wrote on Mon, 16 August 2010 13:36

Glasses ruining mixes. Holy fucking sheep shit.

Okay, yes. Gearslutz is ridiculous. But have you never put on a hat and noticed a change in sound?

grantis · « **Reply #6 on:** August 16, 2010, 07:47:41 PM »

Podgorny wrote on Mon, 16 August 2010 16:10

JGauthier wrote on Mon, 16 August 2010 13:36

Glasses ruining mixes. Holy fucking sheep shit.

Okay, yes. Gearslutz is ridiculous. But have you never put on a hat and noticed a change in sound?

I haven't.

But I don't wear hats.

compasspnt · « **Reply #7 on:** August 16, 2010, 08:37:39 PM »

JGauthier wrote on Mon, 16 August 2010 14:36

Anyone read Issac Asimov Foundations?

Every word.

More than once.

Gio · « **Reply #8 on:** August 16, 2010, 08:42:16 PM »

Podgorny wrote on Mon, 16 August 2010 17:10

Okay, yes. Gearslutz is ridiculous. But have you never put on a hat and noticed a change in sound?

What are you talking? Hats with a brim? How wide? Fedora, Cowboy, or Sombrero? Oops, almost forgot Bowler. What about baseball caps? Worn normally, homey, or catcher style? Does a beret change anything? How 'bout those beanies with the propellers on them? Felt, straw, or wool? Someone do a shoot out.
Maybe mixing bald would be the best.....

Twisted Evil

JGauthier · « **Reply #9 on:** August 16, 2010, 10:57:54 PM »

Ok wait bald... Hmmm I know-

You could get implants and write them off as a business expense... Yeah thats right... I needed the fake hair to block the nasty reflections off my shiney ass head. My folicular shortcoming gives me a 2 db bump around 4khz...

jetbase · « **Reply #10 on:** August 16, 2010, 11:02:30 PM »

JGauthier wrote on Tue, 17 August 2010 12:57

Ok wait bald... Hmmm I know-

You could get implants and write them off as a business expense... Yeah thats right... I needed the fake hair to block the nasty reflections off my shiney ass head. My folicular shortcoming gives me a 2 db bump around 4khz...

Oh, don't get me started on the acoustic properties of hair lacquers & aftershaves. Those audiophiles are wasting their time on cables when they can't even manage a euphonic hairstyle.

Gio · « **Reply #11 on:** August 16, 2010, 11:18:43 PM »

jetbase wrote on Mon, 16 August 2010 23:02

Oh, don't get me started on the acoustic properties of hair lacquers & aftershaves. Those audiophiles are wasting their time on cables when they can't even manage a euphonic hairstyle.

Aftershave? Crap, I haven't even thought about that. What if I don't shave? What is the appropriate beard length for mixing?

compasspnt · « **Reply #12 on:** August 17, 2010, 12:27:20 AM »

Goatee for mono.

YZ · « **Reply #13 on:** August 17, 2010, 06:45:40 AM »

Mohawk for increased stereo separation.

Bangs for taming early reflections.

compasspnt · « **Reply #14 on:** August 17, 2010, 08:18:12 AM »

Collection of toupees for various genres.

MDM, · « **Reply #15 on:** August 17, 2010, 08:53:52 AM »

Yikes! that's pretty wild

ktownson · « **Reply #16 on:** August 17, 2010, 09:19:36 AM »

Soul patch for R&B...

arconaut · « **Reply #17 on:** August 17, 2010, 09:29:47 AM »

When I started working with digital, I colored my face with a green marker, it totally works.

Podgorny · « **Reply #18 on:** August 17, 2010, 10:14:53 AM »

Gio wrote on Mon, 16 August 2010 19:42

What are you talking? Hats with a brim? How wide? Fedora, Cowboy, or Sombrero? Oops, almost forgot Bowler.

Fine. Laugh it up. The sky ain't blue either.

Gio · « **Reply #19 on:** August 17, 2010, 11:16:49 AM »

JGauthier · « **Reply #20 on:** August 17, 2010, 12:38:21 PM »

jetbase wrote on Mon, 16 August 2010 20:02

euphonic hairstyle.

If that isn't a name for a band, I have NO IDEA what is!

And the mohawk for stereo imaging and soul patch for R&B... Holy crap.

I had one ear pierced many years ago... I now wonder if that was why I couldn't get any mixes/tracks sold... Earring reflections screwing with my stereo frequencies- the left side always sounded a little brighter- ESPECIALLY if I wore a hoop and not a stud.

Also- dont forget not to SMILE during mixing... all those teeth are a reflective nightmare!

Podgorny · « **Reply #21 on:** August 17, 2010, 01:04:24 PM »

Here's the truth with all this hairstyle/hat/glasses goofiness.

The shape of your noggin and your outer ears contribute DIRECTLY to what you perceive as normal sound. If you change these things, you will hear differently.
Wearing a hat changes how things sound, and since I don't usually wear a hat, I choose to not wear it when I have to listen closely.

I suppose that if one wears glasses, depending on the size of the frames, it could have some effect on what they hear, but if they wear them regularly, they're used to how the world sounds with them on.

So really, it's not THAT ridiculous.

ktownson · « **Reply #22 on:** August 17, 2010, 03:22:47 PM »

Yeah?

Berolzheimer · « **Reply #23 on:** August 18, 2010, 12:45:22 AM »

While every other item on that list shows certain ridiculousness, I agree with Kyle- I hear differently with my glasses on vs. off, & as someone who wears them about half the time, I usually mix with them off. Unless of course I need to see the meters on some piece of outboard more than a few feet away.

jetbase · « **Reply #24 on:** August 18, 2010, 01:10:10 AM »

Berolzheimer wrote on Wed, 18 August 2010 14:45

While every other item on that list shows certain ridiculousness, I agree with Kyle- I hear differently with my glasses on vs. off, & as someone who wears them about half the time, I usually mix with them off. Unless of course I need to see the meters on some piece of outboard more than a few feet away.

Do you hear a difference between glasses on & off with your eyes closed (asking seriously)?

Andy Peters · « **Reply #25 on:** August 18, 2010, 03:56:25 AM »

Podgorny wrote on Mon, 16 August 2010 14:10

JGauthier wrote on Mon, 16 August 2010 13:36

Glasses ruining mixes. Holy fucking sheep shit.

Okay, yes. Gearslutz is ridiculous. But have you never put on a hat and noticed a change in sound?

If you are mixing monitors for a country singer, you should wear a hat while ringing out wedges.

I am not joking.

-a

nCole · « **Reply #26 on:** August 18, 2010, 09:39:00 AM »

Andy Peters wrote on Wed, 18 August 2010 02:56

Podgorny wrote on Mon, 16 August 2010 14:10

JGauthier wrote on Mon, 16 August 2010 13:36

Glasses ruining mixes. Holy fucking sheep shit.

Okay, yes. Gearslutz is ridiculous. But have you never put on a hat and noticed a change in sound?

If you are mixing monitors for a country singer, you should wear a hat while ringing out wedges.

I am not joking.

-a

or blues... just experienced this again last night. i've heard hats and glasses both do it.

Podgorny · « **Reply #27 on:** August 23, 2010, 12:49:54 PM »

Quote:

So i've got a 3124 and I definately like the fidelity, but the tone isn't quite my thing. I'm thinking I want something more earthy and round in the lower mids...just warmer in general I guess. I'm looking at the following pre's and wondering if it'll get me where I wanna go, or looking for other suggestions:

Vintech 1272 - heard one in a studio I recorded and sounded awesome of my buddies Triple Rec, no experience past that

Warmer?
Triple Rec? Awesome?

Berolzheimer · « **Reply #28 on:** August 23, 2010, 01:52:35 PM »

jetbase wrote on Tue, 17 August 2010 22:10

Berolzheimer wrote on Wed, 18 August 2010 14:45

While every other item on that list shows certain ridiculousness, I agree with Kyle- I hear differently with my glasses on vs. off, & as someone who wears them about half the time, I usually mix with them off. Unless of course I need to see the meters on some piece of outboard more than a few feet away.

Do you hear a difference between glasses on & off with your eyes closed (asking seriously)?

Yes.

JGauthier · « **Reply #29 on:** September 01, 2010, 11:52:23 AM »

Actually guys- its is absolutely ridiculous.

If wearing glasses is negatively affecting your mix- you suck. Literally SUCK as an engineer and should quit.

The people defending this are just internet debaters. Glasses do NOT screw your mix up. If you REALLY think putting glasses on screws the mix up- you are not a real engineer. Or at least you dont get much legit work. PERIOD.

Its sad when something so stupid is defended like its a REAL consideration...

If you want to argue that there is a potential for the glasses to affect a sound wave- OF COURSE THATS TRUE... BUT- to say it negatively affects your ability to critically listen- your are 100% full of shit.

The whole internet Jedi thing is completely out of control.

In closing- if you defend this concept "glasses adversely affect mix" you are an idiot and lying about being a real recording engineer for a living.

Period.

Seriously.

Bullshit.

I call shennanigans...

The defenders should go log into gearslutz where bullshit is the food of the day...

Podgorny · « **Reply #30 on:** September 01, 2010, 12:39:21 PM »

JGauthier wrote on Wed, 01 September 2010 10:52

In closing- if you defend this concept "glasses adversely affect mix" you are an idiot and lying about being a real recording engineer for a living.

So Joseph, you're a troll now?

No one here ever said that glasses or hats will make or break a mix. But they can affect your decisions, even if only slightly. And considering the amount of thought and effort that goes into that last 1%, I don't think it's ridiculous to consider what impact one's personal effects can have on the process.

Just because YOU can't hear a difference, doesn't mean there isn't one. It just means you have a tin ear. But what do I know, I'm a non-professional idiot and a liar.

Gio · « **Reply #31 on:** September 01, 2010, 09:13:34 PM »

So if I get contacts I'll be good to go then? Twisted Evil

Kassonica · « **Reply #32 on:** September 01, 2010, 10:41:33 PM »

Well I always turn the heater on when working with digital, it warms things up nicely.

Berolzheimer · « **Reply #33 on:** September 02, 2010, 01:36:48 AM »

JGauthier wrote on Wed, 01 September 2010 08:52

The whole internet Jedi thing is completely out of control.

.

That's true. Like those guys on the internet who are trying to tell people that what's been working for them for 30 years can't possibly be right, it must be bullshit.

Berolzheimer · « **Reply #34 on:** September 02, 2010, 06:02:13 PM »

You're right, I must be a troll. Oh, and by the way, how many projects have you made large creative contributions to that have earned $659,000,000.00 (as of Sept 1, 2010)?

Podgorny · « **Reply #35 on:** September 02, 2010, 06:11:15 PM »

JGauthier wrote on Thu, 02 September 2010 13:21

Post removed, BB

Dude, I can't believe you're a moderator on these forums.
Welcome to my ignore list.

Berolzheimer · « **Reply #36 on:** September 02, 2010, 06:21:11 PM »

Joseph, you're acting like an insecure religious zealot. As far as I'm concerned you're welcome to believe whatever you want. but don't try to tell me I'm full of shit for living my life based on the experiences that I've had.

Fibes · « **Reply #37 on:** September 03, 2010, 08:55:26 AM »

Slagging GS and then forum members here is the mark of a true professional, it's time those of us who do audio everyday take note.

And that monitor/hat thing bites hard.

compasspnt · « **Reply #38 on:** September 03, 2010, 09:20:13 AM »

I would respectfully request that at the very least, this thread title be changed.

Better yet, let's delete the whole thing.

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