Bill Mueller wrote on Mon, 17 January 2011 21:24 |
mgod wrote on Mon, 17 January 2011 22:09 |
rankus wrote on Mon, 17 January 2011 18:57 | In conversation with my 25 year old daughter (aspiring to become an engineer), the subject of "warmer" analog recordings came up. Her response was: "god your guys older recordings are so "spiky" they hurt my ears. I really like how our modern stuff is so smooth".
"Better" is all in the perception IMO.
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There may be an important age and gender factor here. Younger ears, female ears.
I have a lot to say about contemporary digital recording, but won't. My pal Bill and I would wrangle about it pointlessly. If, however, I could figure out a way for him to hear a Memory Player, then we might have a real conversation in which I'd learn and not just tilt at windmills.
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Hey Dan,
Next time I'm in your neighborhood. I promise. BTW, Ruby Friedman played in town last night. You MUST check out this band live!
So here is an odd thing. I don't mix in Pro Tools. I use a Yamaha digital console and MX2424. Tonight I did a back up of some songs through my console and into PT (no conversions, just straight through digi). For some reason, the back up tracks, that should be identical in every way to the MX tracks, back through two inputs on the console sound BAD! Everything is synced perfectly, no extra processing, identical procedures for every track, etc, etc. But when I play them back, IN THE BOX, it's like they lost all their beauty. Really odd.
There may be sumthing (pun) to this ITB thing.
Bill
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Now Bill, route those tracks from PT's back to the MX2424 and see if they don't sound "good" or the same again.
I get this when working with different software... in the end everything nulls fine. If you import the tracks into the the platforms that sound different from one another, then on playback they do sound different... route the material back to the original source and they sound the same.
Fist discovery of how much PT's changed the sound (on playback only mind you... all the bits are the same) was when I got a Sonic System about 12 years back. Talk about a sound difference. Then later while working in Neuendo everything sounded different as well. I can play back all 3 systems through the same converters and even a lay person can hear the difference.
I've done enough tests over the years to know that once it hits the physical medium (CD, DVD, iPod) everything sounds the same (and will null the same). The consumer playback D/A converters will vary more than the software (platform) does so in my mind (as long as all the bits are there) it's a moot point in digital land.
I can only guess that the "coding" must be different in these programs and that is what cause them to sound slightly different... I speak from ignorance here as I haven't done any programming since my college days.