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[Alécio Costa - Brazil]

Hi friends!
Here in Brazil most major mastering labs are very into Manley/Weiss. Some of the brands you friends recommended me at the other thread hardly appear or can be found down here in Brazil for a reasonable price.
So, for example, which are the advantages/disadvantages/characteristics  of the models below? in which situtations you guys end up choosing one over the other?

a) Ibis X Variable MU
b) STC8 x Massive Passive


Thanks
Nice week

[bblackwood]

Al Brad Blackwood euphonic masters Alécio Costa - Brazil Hero Member Offline Posts: 791 Re: Manley X Crane HI BRad, I wrote this post around 2am. Better sleep more! Nice week, bud! Alécio Costa Studio High-end Mastering, Music Production http://www.aleciocosta.com Listen to my album at: http://www.audiostreet.net/aleciocosta MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/aleciocostamasterizacao jazzius Sr. Member Offline Posts: 458 Re: Manley X Crane I agree with B-rad. If buying a first mastering EQ, I'd go for the Ibis. Because just putting the MP inline will add color. The Ibis can do that "hi-end sheen" thing, whereas the MP can't.....a lot of people expect that in mastering so again, the Ibis would be a better first choice. The MP comes in most useful when you want to do broad EQ balance changes....with the shelf filters. It can do things the Ibis can't. The STC-8 and vari-mu are totally different. The STC-8 does transparent gain control, while the vari-mu can add a sort of soft pillowy quality...and when driven hard can warm the sound. I also have a Smart C2 which i like a lot. I've even had some luck using the crush mode (very gently!) http://www.wisseloordmastering.nl/ http://www.wisseloordmastering.com/ matucha Sr. Member Offline Posts: 304 Re: Manley X Crane Well, that's a bit of an opinion shift Jazzius, some time ago (when MP was new to you) you recommended MP over Ibis for starting. If I recall correctly, you said you can do transparent corrections with good plugin and MP take you where no plugin can. Never mind , I wasn't able to stretch to earn such a money... I only managed to buy S3As and some DA (Apogee miniDAC) conversion. Matous Godik http://www.zka4t.com jazzius Sr. Member Offline Posts: 458 Re: Manley X Crane Ever heard of someone changing their mind? http://www.wisseloordmastering.nl/ http://www.wisseloordmastering.com/ OTR-jkl Hero Member Offline Posts: 869 Re: Manley X Crane jazzius wrote on Tue, 17 August 2004 10:26 Ever heard of someone changing their mind? Yeah, but that's not allowed here... J Lowes · OTR Mastering Professional Audio Production for Life www.ShoutLife.com/OTRMastering matucha Sr. Member Offline Posts: 304 Re: Manley X Crane yea that's very nasty behaviour... peace Matous Godik http://www.zka4t.com jfrigo Hero Member Offline Posts: 1029 Re: Manley X Crane How about Millennia EQ and Pendulum compression? Manley comp is still very nice after all these years, but you have to be aware of the color. MP could be similarly described. I wouldn't have the MP as my first or only EQ. I'd also put the NSEQ-2 before the Ibis. The STC-8 is a pretty versatile machine, so that's a good bet. Pendulum is worth considering as an alternative to these two, but if you're worried more about name recognition in advertising, there are a few others that would be better recognized. Some people like the Manley SLAM, so maybe that's something to try. It very different from a vari-mu. SSL is another recognized name, as is Neve, but honestly, neither of those would be my choice for first or only bus compressor. I wouldn't mind having them around as alternatives however. Remember to include the cost of quality AD/DA when considering an analog processing chain. The best chain won't sound very good if you feed it from a poor DAC and capture the result with a poor ADC. Jay Frigoletto Mastersuite Studio Metronome Alécio Costa - Brazil Hero Member Offline Posts: 791 Re: Manley X Crane THanks JAy, you´ve just read my mind concerning the a/d d/a thing.. Since I am an AlsiHad guy.. here it comes... would the 192I/O be good enough for a/d d/a on mstering? Thanks again Alécio Costa Studio High-end Mastering, Music Production http://www.aleciocosta.com Listen to my album at: http://www.audiostreet.net/aleciocosta MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/aleciocostamasterizacao Print Pages: [1]   Go Up « previous next » R/E/P Community > R/E/P > R/E/P Archives > Brad Blackwood > Manley X Crane   SMF 2.0.19 | SMF © 2021, Simple Machines | Terms and Policies XHTML RSS WAP2 Site Hosted By Ashdown Technologies, Inc. Page created in 0.077 seconds with 19 queries.

[Alécio Costa - Brazil]

HI BRad, I wrote this post around 2am. Better sleep more!
Nice week, bud!

[jazzius]

I agree with B-rad. If buying a first mastering EQ, I'd go for the Ibis. Because just putting the MP inline will add color. The Ibis can do that "hi-end sheen" thing, whereas the MP can't.....a lot of people expect that in mastering so again, the Ibis would be a better first choice. The MP comes in most useful when you want to do broad EQ balance changes....with the shelf filters. It can do things the Ibis can't.

The STC-8 and vari-mu are totally different. The STC-8 does transparent gain control, while the vari-mu can add a sort of soft pillowy quality...and when driven hard can warm the sound. I also have a Smart C2 which i like a lot. I've even had some luck using the crush mode (very gently!)

[matucha]

Well, that's a bit of an opinion shift Jazzius, some time ago (when MP was new to you) you recommended MP over Ibis for starting. If I recall correctly, you said you can do transparent corrections with good plugin and MP take you where no plugin can.

Never mind , I wasn't able to stretch to earn such a money... I only managed to buy S3As and some DA (Apogee miniDAC) conversion.

[jazzius]

Ever heard of someone changing their mind?

[OTR-jkl]

jazzius wrote on Tue, 17 August 2004 10:26

Ever heard of someone changing their mind?

Yeah, but that's not allowed here...

[matucha]

yea that's very nasty behaviour...

peace

[jfrigo]

How about Millennia EQ and Pendulum compression?

Manley comp is still very nice after all these years, but you have to be aware of the color. MP could be similarly described. I wouldn't have the MP as my first or only EQ. I'd also put the NSEQ-2 before the Ibis. The STC-8 is a pretty versatile machine, so that's a good bet. Pendulum is worth considering as an alternative to these two, but if you're worried more about name recognition in advertising, there are a few others that would be better recognized. Some people like the Manley SLAM, so maybe that's something to try. It very different from a vari-mu. SSL is another recognized name, as is Neve, but honestly, neither of those would be my choice for first or only bus compressor. I wouldn't mind having them around as alternatives however.

Remember to include the cost of quality AD/DA when considering an analog processing chain. The best chain won't sound very good if you feed it from a poor DAC and capture the result with a poor ADC.

[Alécio Costa - Brazil]

THanks JAy, you´ve just read my mind concerning the a/d d/a thing.. Since I am an AlsiHad guy.. here it comes...
would the 192I/O be good enough for a/d d/a on mstering?
Thanks again