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[thinman]

Barry Hufker wrote on Wed, 02 June 2010 06:36

I offer as a counter position that conservatives *do* say something -- they spew bile and hate.

Really?

[TotalSonic]

Daniel Farris wrote on Wed, 02 June 2010 14:42

bblackwood wrote on Wed, 02 June 2010 11:40 Daniel Farris wrote on Wed, 02 June 2010 13:27 Bill_Urick wrote on Wed, 02 June 2010 10:58 Can you verify the source and background for the picture you posted? That's not a tea party photo. That's one of those Westboro Baptist Church folks that demonstrates at the funerals of dead soldiers... the Fred Phelps crowd. Wow, that's quite a misrepresentation. Yeah, I agree. I'm a connoisseur of tea party pictures, and they're rarely that offensive. Mostly they're just dumber than a bag of hammers. DF

Yup - grammar and spelling don't seem to be the strong point for some of them -
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pargon/4469684254/

Best regards,
Steve Berson

[el duderino]

Fenris Wulf wrote on Wed, 02 June 2010 01:57

The term is juvenile and completely nonsensical. It SOUNDS vaguely insulting, but what does it mean? Does it mean that Tea Partiers run around placing their balls on the faces of sleeping victims? Or does it mean that liberals enjoy being the recipient of a teabagging? Or does it mean "teabag unto others before they teabag unto you"?

im going to go out on a limb and say it means they suck balls.

thinman wrote on Wed, 02 June 2010 15:08

Barry Hufker wrote on Wed, 02 June 2010 06:36 I offer as a counter position that conservatives *do* say something -- they spew bile and hate. Really?

hey you found a pic of a punk rock dude with a mohawk saying something extreme! how rare.


it's all part of the political bullshit game. ya can either join or ignore it. It sure as shit isn't going to change anytime soon.

[Podgorny]

el duderino wrote on Wed, 02 June 2010 15:38

hey you found a pic of a punk rock dude with a mohawk saying something extreme! how rare.

You don't understand.  He has a disease.




This is what he looked like prior to his affliction.

[Barry Hufker]

I know the picture I posted is from the Huffington Post although I can't find it again, even using my "history" menu item (yes, I'm that lame).  The photo's title is one I gave it.  When I downloaded it and posted it I believed it to be in reference to a Tea Party based on the context I found.  If it is anything else I apologize to all for the error.

Barry

[el duderino]

Podgorny wrote on Wed, 02 June 2010 16:44

el duderino wrote on Wed, 02 June 2010 15:38 hey you found a pic of a punk rock dude with a mohawk saying something extreme! how rare. You don't understand.  He has a disease. This is what he looked like prior to his affliction.

wait that's prior to his affliction? that mic isn't even plugged in!

[ssltech]

Teabaggers:


Spelling? -Grammar?

-Please...

http://moronswithsigns.blogspot.com/

Keith

[thinman]

TotalSonic wrote on Wed, 02 June 2010 14:08

Yup - grammar and spelling don't seem to be the strong point for some of them - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pargon/4469684254/ Best regards, Steve Berson

But as far as reading & understanding, only "one" of the "always more intelligent" liberal contingent here even "got" that Bill's original post was a joke. The tiresome progressive mantra of self assumed intellectual superiority is overbearing. Come on, one could just as easily throw up the video of the liberal woman saying, "Obama's gonna pay my rent, Obama's gonna pay my gas bill... where, from his stash." That wasn't exactly the pinnacle of brainpower, was it?

How do you expect to reason with anybody when you come at them with little more than ridicule and condescension?

If you need an example of fair mindedness, I think Brad Blackwood's posts here seem to come from reason and lack the hubris that seems designed to discourage opposing opinion.

[Barry Hufker]

I'll readily admit that given today's political climate I am the last to realize something political is intended as a joke.  Unfortunately when it comes to conservatives I believe they are capable of any stupid or dangerous thing.

Barry

[Daniel Farris]

Barry Hufker wrote on Wed, 02 June 2010 14:27

I know the picture I posted is from the Huffington Post although I can't find it again, even using my "history" menu item (yes, I'm that lame).  The photo's title is one I gave it.  When I downloaded it and posted it I believed it to be in reference to a Tea Party based on the context I found.  If it is anything else I apologize to all for the error. Barry

The key is the "godhatesfags.com" t-shirt she's wearing.

Dead giveaway.

DF

[Daniel Farris]

I'll say this about all the Bush signs: Sure, there's lunacy and stupidity on both sides. Conceded. Absolutely.

Where I see a difference is that the left tended to marginalize those moonbats. Every sensible liberal I know rolled their eyes in embarrassment every time Cindy Sheehan or Code Pink made the national headlines. Those shrill, tone deaf messages polled very poorly with the left.

On the other side, it seems the "mainstream" right has no problem whatsoever with the social Darwinism / "poverty is a character flaw" / "Obama is a Kenyan socialist Hitler" message of the tea party.

Something like 65% of self-identified republicans believe Obama's birth certificate is a forgery. You never would have found that level of sympathy on the left with that extreme anti-Bush rhetoric.

DF

[thinman]

Barry Hufker wrote on Wed, 02 June 2010 18:07

I'll readily admit that given today's political climate I am the last to realize something political is intended as a joke.  Unfortunately when it comes to conservatives I believe they are capable of any stupid or dangerous thing. Barry

Does that include Bill Urick and the others here who want to retain our constitution and individual liberties? Please explain what sort of stupid and dangerous actions you believe us to be capable of.
.

[Bill_Urick]

I feel that we took a nose dive but then regained some balance.
(Edit-I was typing this during the last few posts. I take it back   )

Yes.

But there is still the tendency to bash, on a personal level, people who don't agree with you.

The woman in the photo Barry posted is apparently associated with a Christian organization.

Does that make all Christians "bullies and racists with a penchant for self-aggrandizement"?

I don't think so.

It is much more time efficient to paint all political opponents with the same broad brush than it is to deal with specific issues.

I think the Tea Party movement is alarming because public protest and demonstrations have a long history (in this country at least) of being the exclusive province of the left. It's much harder to get conservatives, individualists by definition, to engage in that kind of group behavior.

That trend and the effect it might have on future elections is what I believe engenders such hatred.

We'll see in November, I guess.

As far as I can tell, what they are really about is limiting the size of the federal government and getting a handle on the rampant spending.

Pretty threatening concepts.

As far as spelling and grammar, there are plenty of errors around here as well, despite the ol' Spell-Checker.
(Which I use extensively BTW!)

Just acause sumbody ain't got book-lernin' don't mean they's stoopid!

[Daniel Farris]

Bill_Urick wrote on Wed, 02 June 2010 16:47

As far as I can tell, what they are really about is limiting the size of the federal government and getting a handle on the rampant spending.

That's what they say, and I would treat them with so much more respect if I actually believed that to be true.

Where were they for eight years while Bush ran up the deficit, put two wars on the credit card, data-mined the entire internet, and passed a giveaway to the insurance companies in the form of Medicare Part D?

They're fine with large government and huge spending, as long as we spend it like *they* want it spent... mostly bombing brown people.

DF

[bblackwood]

Daniel Farris wrote on Wed, 02 June 2010 18:55

Where were they for eight years while Bush ran up the deficit, put two wars on the credit card, data-mined the entire internet, and passed a giveaway to the insurance companies in the form of Medicare Part D?

I'm not a tea-partier, but I know quite a few folks involved with the rallies and such and, ime, Bush's TARP was what started it. Most have been pissed about this for a long time, but after that, it seemed the spending floodgates opened.

I think it was more of a matter of someone stepping up and organizing something than anything else as, as it was alluded to above, the 'libertarian-like' leanings of the TP are generally focused on individualism.

Quote:

They're fine with large government and huge spending, as long as we spend it like *they* want it spent... mostly bombing brown people.

Sadly, there are certainly those who feel this way.

That being said, I think this generalization is untrue - my experience with TP folks has been that the vast majority of them are for the very basic things that they supposedly stand for - smaller government and less spending.

I'm certain my experiences are limited compared to some of you, but I would suggest that those who wish to really know what the TP gatherings are about should go to one, not rely on someone else to snap photos and/or report on what they saw and heard.