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Barry Hufker

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Re: This "teabag" thing...
« Reply #90 on: June 06, 2010, 11:42:31 pm »

Nathan,

It's always good to have you enter a conversation.  Your scholarship is wonderful.

I agree completely with what you've written.  What I wanted to emphasize was the aspect that S and G treated people unjustly rather than just being "cities filled with fags" (as in www.godhatesfags.com).  I wanted to express there was so much more to the whole issue.

Barry

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Re: This "teabag" thing...
« Reply #91 on: June 07, 2010, 02:07:21 am »

That, Yves, is extremely well said.  I hope you don't mind, I intend to quote you.
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Re: This "teabag" thing...
« Reply #92 on: June 07, 2010, 07:30:23 am »

Berolzheimer wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 03:07

That, Yves, is extremely well said.  I hope you don't mind, I intend to quote you.


Well, the thoughts are there but the structure...  now that I had some sleep, the text looks so ugly...

Quote away.
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Re: This "teabag" thing...
« Reply #93 on: June 07, 2010, 05:22:31 pm »

YZ wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 04:30

Berolzheimer wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 03:07

That, Yves, is extremely well said.  I hope you don't mind, I intend to quote you.


Well, the thoughts are there but the structure...  now that I had some sleep, the text looks so ugly...

Quote away.


It's the content that matters.
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Re: This "teabag" thing...
« Reply #94 on: June 07, 2010, 05:31:25 pm »

Taproot wrote on Sat, 05 June 2010 12:18

Nick Sevilla wrote on Sat, 05 June 2010 09:14

For all of you, in case you forgot, please read this :


Book of Enoch


And remember, that he met the Lord... maybe that is why his writings were abandoned long ago.

Cheers


Probably scared the shit out of Jesus, when he met him.  Shocked  Laughing

http://media.schadenfreude.net/2008/11/0sleestack1.jpg



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Re: This "teabag" thing...
« Reply #95 on: June 08, 2010, 01:16:52 pm »

PookyNMR wrote on Sun, 06 June 2010 17:22

Nick Sevilla wrote on Sat, 05 June 2010 09:14

For all of you, in case you forgot, please read this :

Book of Enoch

And remember, that he met the Lord... maybe that is why his writings were abandoned long ago.



I'm not sure what you're trying to imply here.  

But the 'Book of Enoch' was not written by Enoch.  It is part of a collection of writings called the (Jewish) Pseudepigraphia.  It was written ~ 200 BC.  It's also written in the apocalyptic genre which didn't appear too much earlier than roughly 400 BC.

While the book was known and had some respect among early peoples, it was never considered part of the authoritative canon of scriptures for the Jews.  And even though it is quoted in the NT book of Jude, it was likewise rejected by the Christians as well as authoritative/canonical, even as a book for the 'apocrypha'.  




Good point...

I know this... does anyone else here know about who really wrote this along with all the other books in the Great Book? Probably not.

It would be interesting to find out why it was not considered important.

Cheers
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Re: This "teabag" thing...
« Reply #96 on: June 08, 2010, 06:04:10 pm »

Berolzheimer wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 15:31



I met Enik last year, only he looked more like this:
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Laughing I just couldn't bring myself to watch the new one. In my eyes, it's just outright  sacrilege to touch that classic.  Crying or Very Sad
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Re: This "teabag" thing...
« Reply #97 on: June 08, 2010, 11:55:07 pm »

Nick Sevilla wrote on Tue, 08 June 2010 11:16

PookyNMR wrote on Sun, 06 June 2010 17:22

Nick Sevilla wrote on Sat, 05 June 2010 09:14

For all of you, in case you forgot, please read this :

Book of Enoch

And remember, that he met the Lord... maybe that is why his writings were abandoned long ago.



I'm not sure what you're trying to imply here.  

But the 'Book of Enoch' was not written by Enoch.  It is part of a collection of writings called the (Jewish) Pseudepigraphia.  It was written ~ 200 BC.  It's also written in the apocalyptic genre which didn't appear too much earlier than roughly 400 BC.

While the book was known and had some respect among early peoples, it was never considered part of the authoritative canon of scriptures for the Jews.  And even though it is quoted in the NT book of Jude, it was likewise rejected by the Christians as well as authoritative/canonical, even as a book for the 'apocrypha'.  




Good point...

I know this... does anyone else here know about who really wrote this along with all the other books in the Great Book? Probably not.

It would be interesting to find out why it was not considered important.

Cheers


The specific author of Enoch is not known.  Some scholars theorize that there were actually multiple authors or possibly an author and later editors.

As for 'the other books' in the 'Great Book' - what specifically are you referring to?  Some books have more known about authorship than others.

There are various reasons why it was never canonized.  A few of which -- the fact that it was obviously pseudepigrpahical, elements of the theological content that were suspicious to some of the ancients (like the discourses on angels, sacrifices, lack of references to historical core Jewish ideas), it's historical exclusion from the various Jewish cannons and deuterocanons.


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Re: This "teabag" thing...
« Reply #98 on: June 09, 2010, 12:21:25 am »

Taproot wrote on Tue, 08 June 2010 15:04

Berolzheimer wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 15:31



I met Enik last year, only he looked more like this:
index.php/fa/14912/0/



Laughing I just couldn't bring myself to watch the new one. In my eyes, it's just outright  sacrilege to touch that classic.  Crying or Very Sad


I don't blame you.
I did sound effects work on it for 9 months and unfortunately watched it go from being a charming, fun movie into a steaming pile of toilet jokes, at the behest of some clueless studio execs.
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Re: This "teabag" thing...
« Reply #99 on: June 10, 2010, 09:28:37 pm »

FWIW Dept.

Quote:


Sir,



Can you please be more specific?

I would very much like to clear this up.



Sincerely,



Bill Urick




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From: xxxxxxx@teaparty.org  
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 11:01 PM
To: Urick
Subject: Re: Need to know if this is an actual photo of you



Radical perpetuating a lie.

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From: Urick
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To: xxxxxxx@teaparty.org
Subject: Need to know if this is an actual photo of you

Sir

 

Please, can you verify if this is a real photo.

 

Thank you,

 

Bill Urick






Hope that's clear enough.
I had no response from second request.
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