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Barry Hufker

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"Lost" Jewish Tribe Found In Zimbabwe
« on: March 05, 2010, 10:05:12 pm »

A fascinating story based in what seems to be fact.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8550614.stm

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Re: "Lost" Jewish Tribe Found In Zimbabwe
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2010, 10:07:01 am »

The women finally made the men ask for directions? Razz
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Re: "Lost" Jewish Tribe Found In Zimbabwe
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2010, 02:27:26 pm »

Did the BBC just get cable? this story has been on the history channel for a year by now.
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Re: "Lost" Jewish Tribe Found In Zimbabwe
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2010, 02:38:11 pm »

I traveled to Israel in 1992 and they were then trying to come to terms with another tribe of Africans discovered to have Jewish roots. There was enough scientific evidence to connect this tribe with the Jewish diaspora, but there was also a lot of resistance from the more traditional Jews.

There's a fascinating museum in Tel Aviv that chronicles the dispersion of the original Jewish tribe. Guess they'll have to expand their exhibit a bit more.


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Barry Hufker

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Re: "Lost" Jewish Tribe Found In Zimbabwe
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2010, 08:17:27 pm »

There's an additional story, totally unconfirmed as far as I know so it's "urban(?) legend"but here it is:
The Queen of Sheba (from a part of Africa?) traveled to meet King Solomon.  Apparently there was a "liason" between the two resulting in a son.  Years later, when Solomon fell into apostasy, this son traveled to Solomon's palace, removing The Ark of the Covenant, bringing it back with him to Africa(?).

Now appears this tribe with what is a "replica" of The Ark.  This "tribe" and its "ark" are an interesting "take" on the above story.

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Samc

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Re: "Lost" Jewish Tribe Found In Zimbabwe
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2010, 09:57:45 pm »

I've heard the story and debates about the story in the past and the Ethopia was  supposedly where all of this took place.
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Re: "Lost" Jewish Tribe Found In Zimbabwe
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2010, 09:59:56 pm »

I saw a documentary about the tribe in Ethiopia.  They claimed to have the ark in a small building that no one was allowed to enter.

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Re: "Lost" Jewish Tribe Found In Zimbabwe
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2010, 11:01:12 pm »

Diaspora Jews from all the major occupations (Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, Seleucid, Roman, etc) could be found all over the known world.

It is well known that there were many Jews spread throughout northern Africa.  The interesting part about this story is how far south it appears some of these Jews traveled.  

The Ethiopian destination (of the ark) theory has been popular.  But there's too little evidence to declare anything other than 'interesting legend' to any of these stories.  
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Re: "Lost" Jewish Tribe Found In Zimbabwe
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2010, 06:15:39 pm »

PookyNMR wrote on Sun, 07 March 2010 04:01

The Ethiopian destination (of the ark) theory has been popular.  But there's too little evidence to declare anything other than 'interesting legend' to any of these stories.  


These very 'stories', including the one about Queen of Sheba and Solomon are some of the foundation arguments on which Rastafarians base their beliefs.  
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Re: "Lost" Jewish Tribe Found In Zimbabwe
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2010, 10:28:00 pm »

Samc wrote on Sun, 07 March 2010 16:15

These very 'stories', including the one about Queen of Sheba and Solomon are some of the foundation arguments on which Rastafarians base their beliefs.  


Could you elaborate?  It's been ~20 years since I've studied Rastafarianism and I would find that interesting.
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Re: "Lost" Jewish Tribe Found In Zimbabwe
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2010, 01:55:30 pm »

PookyNMR wrote on Mon, 08 March 2010 03:28

Samc wrote on Sun, 07 March 2010 16:15

These very 'stories', including the one about Queen of Sheba and Solomon are some of the foundation arguments on which Rastafarians base their beliefs.  


Could you elaborate?  It's been ~20 years since I've studied Rastafarianism and I would find that interesting.


In a nutshell, Haile Selassie (power of the trinity) is worshipped as God incarnate among followers of the Rastafari movement the name of which is taken from Haile Selassie's pre-imperial name Ras. meaning Head a title equivalent to Duke, and Tafari Makonnen.

His official titles, Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah, King of Kings, Lord of Lords and Elect of God, and his believed lineage from Solomon and Sheba, are perceived by Rastafarians as confirmation of the return of the Messiah as professed in the Book of Revelation in the New Testament: King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah and Root of David.

Rastafari faith in the incarnate divinity of Haile Selassie emerged in Jamaica during the 1930s under the influence of Marcus Garvey's "Pan Africanism" movement, as the Messiah who will lead the peoples of Africa and the African diaspora to freedom. His eventual coronation and titles gave credence to these beliefs in 1930. Haile Selassie's own perspectives permeate the philosophy of the movement.  

When he visited Jamaica in 1966 he disappointed government and established church leaders because he never rebuked the Rastafari for their belief in him as the returned Jesus. Instead, he held a private meeting with some leaders of the movement and presented a few of the movement's leaders with gold medallions, the only recipients of such an honor on this visit. In fact this was thought to have quietly vexed some church officials and government ministers.

giving the 5"-6" diameter gold medallions was very significant, because they bore the official seal of the Emperor and allowed the holders to have an audience with him anywhere in the world without an appointment. Presenting this medallion at any Ethiopian embassy also guarantees official protection for its holder.

Rastafarians strongly believe that when Queen of Sheba left Jerusalem to return to Ethiopia, Solomon gave her the Ark for safe keeping, where it has remained since.
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Re: "Lost" Jewish Tribe Found In Zimbabwe
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2010, 03:32:52 pm »

Thanks, Sam.  That sounds like some interesting history worth reading!
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