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[NelsonL]

j.hall wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 09:05

really?  you guys don't use a popper stopper at all?   maybe it's the big rock i'm working on constantly, but the amount of compression applied to the vocal with tonal EQ'ing.  i can't say the popper stopper has ever bothered me.  in fact, i'm glad it's there.

I've seen colleagues use two popper stoppers and a pencil, and the track came out great. But could it have been a little better?

That's the question I take away from every session, despite the fact that I've actually made some recordings that I'm proud of. I suspect most of us are this way.

You have to figure out what works for you, and to me, that story never ends.

PS, Maarvold, I didn't mean to jack your thread idea. I just re-read your bump over there and realized that you really deserve the credit for starting this conversation-- thank you!

[Podgorny]

I find the hexagonal shape of the pencil to cause undesirable artifacts.  Bic pens are much preferred.

[NelsonL]

Podgorny wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 22:30

I find the hexagonal shape of the pencil to cause undesirable artifacts.  Bic pens are much preferred.

Sharpie's sound phat and you can tag with them.

[Reno]

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[grantis]

Podgorny wrote on Tue, 02 February 2010 00:30

I find the hexagonal shape of the pencil to cause undesirable artifacts.  Bic pens are much preferred.

Mont Blanc pens have a nice high-end quality.  Bic is the behringer of pop filters.

[jetbase]

grantis wrote on Wed, 03 February 2010 03:45

Podgorny wrote on Tue, 02 February 2010 00:30 I find the hexagonal shape of the pencil to cause undesirable artifacts.  Bic pens are much preferred. Mont Blanc pens have a nice high-end quality.  Bic is the behringer of pop filters.

Be careful what road you go down because once you get to a quill you're back to popper stopper again.

[grantis]

jetbase wrote on Tue, 02 February 2010 16:02

grantis wrote on Wed, 03 February 2010 03:45 Podgorny wrote on Tue, 02 February 2010 00:30 I find the hexagonal shape of the pencil to cause undesirable artifacts.  Bic pens are much preferred. Mont Blanc pens have a nice high-end quality.  Bic is the behringer of pop filters. Be careful what road you go down because once you get to a quill you're back to popper stopper again.

yeah, no doubt.  I hate those things though.  Always leaving ink stains on my chin.

[j.hall]

they tickle my face...

[jonathan jetter]

i have recently stopped using a pop-filter for most sessions.

i think for hip-hop, or loud rock, the benefits may still outweigh the drawbacks.

but i was about to throw down several thousand for a different vocal mic after growing displeased with my Mojave MA-200.

the other night i did a vocal session with no pop filter and the mic sounded like a million bucks.  easily the best vocal sound i've recorded in a long, long time.  i've done other sessions with the same singer through the same chain (API 312, Purple MC77, Digi 192) that didn't sound nearly as big/full/warm/awesome/natural/whatever.  totally happy with the mic now.

[maarvold]

jonathan jetter wrote on Wed, 03 February 2010 10:01

i have recently stopped using a pop-filter for most sessions... ...the other night i did a vocal session with no pop filter and the mic sounded like a million bucks...

This mirrors how I feel about results I've been getting recently when doing vocals with no pop filter.  

[Tomas Danko]

jonathan jetter wrote on Wed, 03 February 2010 18:01

i have recently stopped using a pop-filter for most sessions. i think for hip-hop, or loud rock, the benefits may still outweigh the drawbacks. but i was about to throw down several thousand for a different vocal mic after growing displeased with my Mojave MA-200. the other night i did a vocal session with no pop filter and the mic sounded like a million bucks.  easily the best vocal sound i've recorded in a long, long time.  i've done other sessions with the same singer through the same chain (API 312, Purple MC77, Digi 192) that didn't sound nearly as big/full/warm/awesome/natural/whatever.  totally happy with the mic now.

Sometimes it's useful to have a pop filter in order to prevent a nervous and inexperienced talent/actor from moving too close to the microphone...

[NelsonL]

Tomas Danko wrote on Thu, 04 February 2010 04:44

jonathan jetter wrote on Wed, 03 February 2010 18:01 i have recently stopped using a pop-filter for most sessions. i think for hip-hop, or loud rock, the benefits may still outweigh the drawbacks. but i was about to throw down several thousand for a different vocal mic after growing displeased with my Mojave MA-200. the other night i did a vocal session with no pop filter and the mic sounded like a million bucks.  easily the best vocal sound i've recorded in a long, long time.  i've done other sessions with the same singer through the same chain (API 312, Purple MC77, Digi 192) that didn't sound nearly as big/full/warm/awesome/natural/whatever.  totally happy with the mic now. Sometimes it's useful to have a pop filter in order to prevent a nervous and inexperienced talent/actor from moving too close to the microphone...

Or, just arrange the pencil horizontally.

[iCombs]

NelsonL wrote on Thu, 04 February 2010 06:59

Tomas Danko wrote on Thu, 04 February 2010 04:44 jonathan jetter wrote on Wed, 03 February 2010 18:01 i have recently stopped using a pop-filter for most sessions. i think for hip-hop, or loud rock, the benefits may still outweigh the drawbacks. but i was about to throw down several thousand for a different vocal mic after growing displeased with my Mojave MA-200. the other night i did a vocal session with no pop filter and the mic sounded like a million bucks.  easily the best vocal sound i've recorded in a long, long time.  i've done other sessions with the same singer through the same chain (API 312, Purple MC77, Digi 192) that didn't sound nearly as big/full/warm/awesome/natural/whatever.  totally happy with the mic now. Sometimes it's useful to have a pop filter in order to prevent a nervous and inexperienced talent/actor from moving too close to the microphone... Or, just arrange the pencil horizontally.

Sharp end out...helps to really teach the lesson.

[DCombs]

iCombs wrote on Thu, 04 February 2010 15:50

NelsonL wrote on Thu, 04 February 2010 06:59 Tomas Danko wrote on Thu, 04 February 2010 04:44 jonathan jetter wrote on Wed, 03 February 2010 18:01 i have recently stopped using a pop-filter for most sessions. i think for hip-hop, or loud rock, the benefits may still outweigh the drawbacks. but i was about to throw down several thousand for a different vocal mic after growing displeased with my Mojave MA-200. the other night i did a vocal session with no pop filter and the mic sounded like a million bucks.  easily the best vocal sound i've recorded in a long, long time.  i've done other sessions with the same singer through the same chain (API 312, Purple MC77, Digi 192) that didn't sound nearly as big/full/warm/awesome/natural/whatever.  totally happy with the mic now. Sometimes it's useful to have a pop filter in order to prevent a nervous and inexperienced talent/actor from moving too close to the microphone... Or, just arrange the pencil horizontally. Sharp end out...helps to really teach the lesson.

i'm with icombs, maybe educating people about how to sing into a mic is good. i always sing slightly off axis, no filter; no pop. just don't be retarded and focus on what really matters, a performance. i think that should be a moto.

[Jonah A. Kort]

DCombs wrote on Sun, 07 February 2010 00:56

just don't be retarded and focus on what really matters, a performance.

Quoted for emphasis...