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Thomas W. Bethel

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What does the term "micro dynamics" mean???
« on: January 04, 2010, 11:20:55 AM »

What does the term "micro dynamics" refer to. I see it use a lot on forums.

Just wondering

Thanks in advance.
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Re: What does the term "micro dynamics" mean???
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2010, 11:47:52 AM »

Thomas W. Bethel wrote on Mon, 04 January 2010 16:20

What does the term "micro dynamics" refer to. I see it use a lot on forums.

Just wondering

Thanks in advance.


It is a term used by Bob Katz in his book "Mastering audio: the art and the science".

I quote:

"The art of manipulating dynamics may be divided into Macrodynamics and Microdynamics. I call music's rhythmic expression, integrity or bounce, the microdynamics of the music. I call macrodynamics the loudness differences between sections of a song or a song-cycle."
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Re: What does the term "micro dynamics" mean???
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2010, 01:51:45 PM »

I read that what I want to know is what it really means????
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Re: What does the term "micro dynamics" mean???
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2010, 02:00:24 PM »

I think it is the opposite of bulk. All I care for is bulk.

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Re: What does the term "micro dynamics" mean???
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2010, 02:57:18 PM »

He's using it as macro and micro in the normal terms ..


large in scope or small in scope ... I'd think of it as the difference in scope between a slow bus compressor, and a transient designer. . .

although he seems to mean the difference between crescendo and staccato. One is meant to be applied over many bars, the other in relation to individual notes.

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Re: What does the term "micro dynamics" mean???
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2010, 12:36:43 AM »

What about nano dynamics? : - )

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Re: What does the term "micro dynamics" mean???
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2010, 02:22:08 AM »

As Tomas says, Bob Katz has been using the term, "microdynamics," to refer to the crest factor of transients.   "Macrodynamics" refers to the difference between the fortissimo  and the pianissimo passages.   The difference in level between a quiet intro and a loud chorus illustrates one case of macrodynamics.   The difference between the RMS level of the mix and the peak level for a single kick drum "note," or single hand clap*, would be one case of microdynamics.  



*not the quiet kind where only one hand is clapping, of course. (;


From   http://www.ultimateavmag.com/   in their article on the Bel Canto Evo2 amplifier:

"...Audiophiles often talk about micro- and macrodynamics. Macrodynamics refers to a system's total dynamic range from loud to soft, while microdynamics concerns the subtle differences between small changes in volume. Most decent amplifiers can get the macrodynamics right, but mastering microdynamics separates the merely good amplifiers from the truly great."





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Re: What does the term "micro dynamics" mean???
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2010, 02:27:48 AM »

Thomas W. Bethel wrote on Mon, 04 January 2010 10:51

I read that what I want to know is what it really means????


It's something that needs enhancing.


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Re: What does the term "micro dynamics" mean???
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2010, 06:38:16 AM »

dcollins wrote on Tue, 05 January 2010 01:27

Thomas W. Bethel wrote on Mon, 04 January 2010 10:51

I read that what I want to know is what it really means????


It's something that needs enhancing.


DC


M/S setup?
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Re: What does the term "micro dynamics" mean???
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2010, 07:47:53 AM »

dcollins wrote on Tue, 05 January 2010 07:27

Thomas W. Bethel wrote on Mon, 04 January 2010 10:51

I read that what I want to know is what it really means????


It's something that needs enhancing.


DC


Oh yes, microdynamic enhancement. Now we're at the core of the art and science of mastering!
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Re: What does the term "micro dynamics" mean???
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2010, 09:30:10 AM »

mastertone wrote on Tue, 05 January 2010 05:38

dcollins wrote on Tue, 05 January 2010 01:27

Thomas W. Bethel wrote on Mon, 04 January 2010 10:51

I read that what I want to know is what it really means????


It's something that needs enhancing.


DC


M/S setup?

No, I think there's a chart involved.
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Re: What does the term "micro dynamics" mean???
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2010, 09:54:22 AM »

bblackwood wrote on Tue, 05 January 2010 14:30

mastertone wrote on Tue, 05 January 2010 05:38

dcollins wrote on Tue, 05 January 2010 01:27

Thomas W. Bethel wrote on Mon, 04 January 2010 10:51

I read that what I want to know is what it really means????


It's something that needs enhancing.


DC


M/S setup?

No, I think there's a chart involved.


It's about the differences of dynamics when the mastering engineer is on coke or not:

http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/edu/90/3/images/edu_90_3_407_tbl2a.gif

The units are obviously in ms.
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Re: What does the term "micro dynamics" mean???
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2010, 10:13:41 AM »

"Micro Dynamics" are all that remain after brickwall limiting...

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Re: What does the term "micro dynamics" mean???
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2010, 10:53:16 AM »

dcollins wrote on Tue, 05 January 2010 01:27

Thomas W. Bethel wrote on Mon, 04 January 2010 10:51

I read that what I want to know is what it really means????


It's something that needs enhancing.


I use the Flux Capacitor for this... it works great.

In MS mode, of course....

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Re: What does the term "micro dynamics" mean???
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2010, 11:51:43 AM »

Thomas W. Bethel wrote on Mon, 04 January 2010 10:20

What does the term "micro dynamics" refer to. I see it use a lot on forums.

Just wondering

Thanks in advance.


What other terms are in use for the control of dynamics which add to the overall feel of a piece - adding a touch of glue, say? - as opposed, for example, to riding a fader.

Microdynamics seems to me to be a pretty good word to describe that aspect of what we all do (a bit, and most of the time) and I doubt that anyone is claiming any different or any more than that.

All the best,

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