"E" wrote on Thu, 31 December 2009 03:14 |
Hey Brandon,
Thanks for the reply man. As far as converters i believe the only option i have bro is to go from m-audio to HD which are the protools accel pci cards, and those cards are the best converters out there but they run about $7k-$16k depending upon how many channels you want. But with the profire 2626 the preamps on it can be bypassed as long as you plug in with a xlr on the channel but if you go in with a 1/4 inch trs then you will be using the preamps on the interface so that is a plus with the interface if i do get a mixer such as the onyx 24 or 32 i could come straight out of the direct outs 1/4's and go in on the profire 2626 xlr and it won't be passing thru 2 preamps. I just have heard of a lot of industry hits and albums and projects tracked and mixed on mackie 32-8's and 32-4's and i got a guy up in michigan that has one for $800 but guy at Sweetwater pro gear said the converters in it and the eqs are not good as the converters in the m-audio profire 2626. i'm trying to get the best sound coming in as close to HD going into protools i know you've got plenty other interfaces out there that kill the profire 2626 such as apogee, motu, and a few more but they can't run into protools unless i buy something like the motu or a apogee or something close and then come out of the adats which i have 2 sets of adat ins on the profire 2626 for a total of 16 ch's of adat. So in your opinion what you think because i would love to have that flexibility of routing and so forth with the mixer console with bands and being able to have different mixes going to each band member headphones if needed and so on, but based on the progear salesman he said its a waste of money with having the converters in the profire 2626 and buying a mackie 32-8 he said the only way i would really notice a difference in sound would be if i stepped up to a toft audio mixing console which start at about $5k for a 24 channel. But he did try to shoot me towards the mackie i-onyx series which are now compatible with m-powered protools 8 and brings 16 channels in but i want 24 or better i like to have more than not enough. so that leaves me with the mackie onyx 24 or 32 which are $1,600 & $2,400 ballpark. so your opinion seriously man it would help me greatly because i'm getting ready to spend some money within the next 3 weeks on more equipment and don't want it to be a waste. I just recently bought the akg c414 and the neumann tlm 103 which is a big upgrade from the behringer b1 i was using but it had a real nice sound to it to but now these mics really shine thru. So do i just buy converters and run thru the profire or get a mackie because with the profire 2626 like i said the preamps can be bypassed by going in xlr?
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Hi "E",
I don't know where to begin sorting out this wealth of false statements...
1. Pro Tools Accel PCI cards are not the converters, they are processing cards carrying DSP chips that takes care of the calculations.
2. Pro Tools HD is not "the best converters out there". They work, they don't totally suck. But they are in the middle between bad and awesome.
3. It's usually that the XLR input will got through the mic preamps, while the 1/4" (TRS) will go in on line level bypassing the mic preamps.
4. There are no mic preamps on the regular Pro Tools HD rig, unless you've added their separate rack with mic preamps.
5. There are no converters in the Mackie 32-8 or 32-4 analog consoles. Anyone stating this has immediately lost respect as a sales man.
On the whole, it sounds suspiciously like the output from a trollbot, but I'll honor this post with a proper response anyway.
FWIW, getting a second hand Mackie 8-bus would seriously put you in control as an engineer and producer. It will sound good enough initially, and the routing facilities will make you look good and fast as far as the band is concerned.
Good luck with the recording!
Cheers,
Danko