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Fibes

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Josephson E22s, anyone?
« on: November 03, 2009, 01:12:01 pm »

Currently there is a gap in my locker that this mic appears to fit the bill for. I need a pair of high spl small diaphragm condensers for drums, guitars and in some live remote instances piano. All the marketing hoopla seems to point to this mic but at 1350 per unit it's a bit spendy and I really don't want to waste a gear pimps time on a trial without some proof in the pudding from actual users.

Anything I should know? Is there an alternate?

Current SDCs at my disposal:
KM 184
KM 69
KM 54
SM 2
TNC 310
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Re: Josephson E22s, anyone?
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2009, 08:49:27 am »

I've had a pair for several years and they seem to get used on almost every drum session here; our new resident producer has been using them on overheads for several months now. I've used them on snare a lot (top and bottom) and as the over/side mics in a 4-mic drum setup with great results. Of the mics you list, I only own the KM54 and I'd never use a nickle-membrane SDC under high SPL conditions (go search Klaus' forum) so wouldn't compare it with the Josephson. To my ears, the e22S sounds solid, hi-fi, great transient response, not a lot of color added. The side address configuration really lends itself to micing drums. Definitely worth demoing.
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Re: Josephson E22s, anyone?
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2009, 10:13:59 am »

Steve Hudson wrote on Wed, 04 November 2009 08:49

I've had a pair for several years and they seem to get used on almost every drum session here; our new resident producer has been using them on overheads for several months now. I've used them on snare a lot (top and bottom) and as the over/side mics in a 4-mic drum setup with great results. Of the mics you list, I only own the KM54 and I'd never use a nickle-membrane SDC under high SPL conditions (go search Klaus' forum) so wouldn't compare it with the Josephson. To my ears, the e22S sounds solid, hi-fi, great transient response, not a lot of color added. The side address configuration really lends itself to micing drums. Definitely worth demoing.


Thanks, and the SM2/54 are used in distance drum mode only so I won't be comparing either.  
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Re: Josephson E22s, anyone?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2009, 09:52:19 am »

You might consider a pair of Beyerdynamic MC 930's. 140 db spl,similar freq. response to the Josephson's, small (easy to position) $1k per pair. Smoother than KM184's, a lot of people like them,I've never heard any negative comments about them. Beyer stuff is  well made.
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Re: Josephson E22s, anyone?
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2009, 07:07:08 pm »

I've had a pair of e22s for a few years, and my experiences are similar to Steve's.

The e22s are outstanding drum spot mics -- lots of headroom, easy to position, and they sound clear and full regardless of SPL.

They take high SPL really well in general.  I've found them useful in places where I wouldn't normally put an SDC -- they're great on bass amps, for example.

To my ears, there's just a bit of a tradeoff for all that headroom with quieter sources.  Acoustic guitars still sound great, but you'll need a quiet, high-gain pre.  On really delicate sources, they can sound a little thick compared to say, a Schoeps.

Overall, though, I think they're great and worth the money, particularly useful if you record louder groups.
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Re: Josephson E22s, anyone?
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2009, 03:27:40 am »

I absolutely love them on drums - toms especially and occasionally snare. Great at capturing the transients and depth of drums while handling the SPL.

Also very overlooked on the acoustic front - since they capture transients so well, they are often spectacular on acoustic gtr/mandolin/banjo, etc.

Have four of them and use them on practically every session.

Sound good on an SVT 8x10 too!

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Re: Josephson E22s, anyone?
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2009, 04:22:56 pm »

Fibes wrote on Tue, 03 November 2009 19:12

All the marketing hoopla seems to point to this mic but at 1350 per unit it's a bit spendy


I thought this mic was expensive until I tried it. Now I think it's cheap.

I've been very happy using it on snare, bass cabinet, guitar cabinet, upright piano and acoustic guitar.


I think you'll find it useful.

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Re: Josephson E22s, anyone?
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2009, 10:39:38 am »

Thanks gentlemen, obviously they deserve a spin. Anyone used one on Upright bass? Maybe the Bock iFet will be released soon. Smile
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Re: Josephson E22s, anyone?
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2009, 05:59:14 pm »

Fibes wrote on Wed, 11 November 2009 09:39

Anyone used one on Upright bass?


Yes, pitz and arco, and it's pretty great.  Deep, unstressed bass.
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Re: Josephson E22s, anyone?
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2009, 06:11:03 am »

I am sold

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Re: Josephson E22s, anyone?
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2009, 02:17:49 pm »

The amount of rejection they provide is what makes them winners to me.
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Re: Josephson E22s, anyone?
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2009, 09:33:12 am »

In fact the Josephson E22 is not really a small diaphragm microphone. Maybe the membrane width itself may be, but looking at the width of the total capsule head, including the outer ring, this microphone is a medium diaphragm size microphone. The size of the outer ring has to be added to the whole diaphragm width, and has influence on the directivity of the microphone.

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