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[pete andrews]

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My assertion is that live recording of instruments will become less and less important in future. It will be replaced by sampled instruments (a wide variety of the very best instruments, best studios, and micing combinations), amp simulators, and synths.

i bet this will not turn out to be the case.
just a hunch.

-pete

[wwittman]

pimpfresh wrote on Wed, 06 January 2010 12:26

I do however believe that if the purists refuse to learn or grow with the fast emerging trends, they will get left behind, or at least be relegated to a niche market.

as opposed to the HUGE sales enjoyed by DIY hobbyists

[Gabriel F]

To me it sounds like a justification for not having access to a  great studio. Just fooling ourselves believing that you can create in a 5 thousand dollar home studio records as good as those recorded in proper studios, with a capable enginner and producer.

I have a project studio, and the awful truth is that i wont ever record something even close in quality to a frank sinatra record, henry mancini scores, pink floyd, RATM, Motown, etc. No matters how good i become. It aint gonna happen. And i havent seen someone made it happen.

What will happen if your predictions are wrong and in 10 years kids become tired of sampled and computer based music and go back to the roots? who will be in demand? an enginner who never miked a drum? or an enginner who did it hundreds of times and can learn in a couple of days to use autotune, melodyne, BD, vocalign and whatever new production tehcnique becomes popular?

Where are most of those 80s enginners who just nailed that particular sound right now?

[NelsonL]

I have a friend/client whose going to be on Letterman Friday night-- that's not really relevant, but I'm proud of him.

To some extent, that trajectory starts with an EP we recorded (partly) in my living room.

With every release since then, he's sought out professional studios (including one that I worked at) and more and more established producers-- I would contend that many if not most artists will seek out real studios when they have some success or financing, even if they have some success in home studios.

Part of this is because it's natural to be curious about these places where so many of our favorite records are made, e.g. not a bedroom.

Lastly, although we tracked several songs on that EP in my rather nice sounding former apartment (very high ceilings, hardwood floors) we mixed in a Bob Hodas tuned control room, which made such a huge difference in the final product as compared to my roughs.

I think you can do a lot with humble gear, but on the other hand, I don't foresee vintage 1073 prices coming down anytime soon.

[Greg Dixon]

pete andrews wrote on Thu, 07 January 2010 08:10

Quote: My assertion is that live recording of instruments will become less and less important in future. It will be replaced by sampled instruments (a wide variety of the very best instruments, best studios, and micing combinations), amp simulators, and synths. i bet this will not turn out to be the case. just a hunch. -pete

Actually, I think he's right to a large extent. I've been saying for a while now, that it's never been easier to make a 'good' sounding recording, but there are less and less 'great' records being made. Yes you can make a 'professional' sounding recording with samples/virtual instruments/amp simulators etc. and people are doing that. It's very rare that the outcome is truly great though.

I was mixing 3 songs (that I didn't track) last week. All recorded in a good studio, using real players on good instruments and even a choir for some vocal pad parts. The only exception was a Hammond part played with a decent emulation. As we were finishing the mixes I got the client to play my Hammond/Leslie. The look of excitement, at the revelation he was experiencing, playing the real thing, is just one of the reasons why emulations will never completely replace the movement of air captured by quality mics, in a good room.

[bblackwood]

wwittman wrote on Wed, 06 January 2010 21:50

as opposed to the HUGE sales enjoyed by DIY hobbyists

This.

Love to see an example of a DIY record that's even been certified gold...

[grantis]

bblackwood wrote on Thu, 07 January 2010 09:07

wwittman wrote on Wed, 06 January 2010 21:50 as opposed to the HUGE sales enjoyed by DIY hobbyists This. Love to see an example of a DIY record that's even been certified gold...

Nah man.  Success is all in the head.  If it sounds good to ME, then it's a hit.

[Podgorny]

bblackwood wrote on Thu, 07 January 2010 09:07

Love to see an example of a DIY record that's even been certified gold...

I'd be happy to see any decent record sell gold nowadays.

[Gabriel F]

I'd be happy to see people hearing the difference between a decent record and a great one.

[j.hall]

Podgorny wrote on Thu, 07 January 2010 11:07

bblackwood wrote on Thu, 07 January 2010 09:07 Love to see an example of a DIY record that's even been certified gold... I'd be happy to see any decent record sell gold nowadays.

indeed!