Relax please. I'm really just trying to keep things "light"... REEEEEEEALY!! I mean it!
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I'm sorry if I haven't been "light". I'll try to keep it that way in the future.
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Sorta true, but the perpendicular is equally true: not being a compromise with ifs and buts is usually wrong.
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Gotcha. I'm beginning to understand. Unfortunately, I began asking questions on QRD's 8 years ago, and the first response I received from a well known Acoustician and another Studio designer,was completely at odds with the views expressed in this thread in regards to QRD's. In absolute fact, I was told FLAT OUT by the Studio designer.."they don't work and he'd seen MILES of these units torn out". Indeed, if acoustical devices are based on science, why would one group of this discipline so heartedly disagree with another? I'm sorry if that is not "light", but this question has hounded me for almost a decade. AND, I get chewed out every time I bring it up...like...what the heck gives here?
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Fitz, I'm sorry this isn't obvious to you, but what we do as professionals is a mix of science, art, design, blend, shrink, expand and otherwise mix our clients dreams into a design that hopefully turns into reality.
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Oh, I'm aware alright. As an interested amateur, all I've been trying to ascertain is where the compromises are and why. Hence the type questions I ask. I mean, I haven't asked what WOOD works best, or color , have I?
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This is absolutely NOT pure science.
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BINGO!! You'd think it was if you ask questions on an acoustics forum.
You'd get a chart showing the absorption difference between Mahogany and Gaboon, when all your using it for is trim
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Yes, there's a lot of science involved. Yes, some of it (like structural decoupling and mass law) is pretty cut and dry. What you have to remember is this is all about MUSIC. This is where it gets fun, interesting, ambiguous and SUBJECTIVE... What I like best is not what you like best (or Thomas, or Wes...). That's why customers hire one of us or the other: they like something we do better than somebody elses stuff.... combined with the fact that we provide them with a comfort level, and experience to help guide them through the oncoming series of compromises.
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Mr. Manzella, I assume this includes Acoustics if the only thing that certifies you've done your job is the owners approval, no?
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Does this all make sense?? Music is the variable here. What I hear and feel sounds great is my 'opinion'. How I achieve the environment that I feel sounds great is my 'approach' and it's not JUST SCIENCE.
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Thank you for your frankness. Since the day I began my interest, I've been under the impression that ALL studio designers sought a COMMON acoustical "standard" that could be measured, and tested to insure this standard was met. NOW, I'm REALLY beginning to understand your professional job description.
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OK, off the soapbox.. sorry for the rant
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Rant? You've mistaken me for someone who thinks like you
Didn sound like a rant to me at all. On the contrary, "I"m the guilty party here. Hahahaha!
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. This (forum) is supposed to be a sharing of ideas, experience, question and answer forum. You cannot be offended if those of us who moderate or participate don't want to give detailed replies to project specific questions that exceed our comfort level on 'free consultation'
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Gotcha. Whats your rate for sharing proprietary ideas?
(just kidding) I totally understand.
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Please respect it when someone tells you something is proprietary. I always do.
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Ok Mr. Manzella, but if I'm not mistaken, I DID say at the beginning of this thread that I understood some things were "secret", did I not? I only asked for your "opinion" on "my" proprietary design...which "I" SHARED with this forum. However, now that I understand that "compromise" can mean anything, and the only thing that I have to do is meet clients needs within his budget and existing limitations, and can back any design goal with tests to prove I met this client approved goal, then I guess that's it. I've finally come to the end of my quest. Thank you and everyone else for all that you've shared with me. I am indebted to you.
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