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TotalSonic

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Re: No DDP via FTP... WTF?
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2009, 07:32:20 pm »

hnewman wrote on Sat, 17 October 2009 16:03

I believe FLAC is also error immune, and most of the frontends let you fingerprint when you encode.  I wish FLAC would catch on, I like that most software will play them without decompressing.


I agree - FLAC is excellent format and the one current lossless codec I'm most hoping becomes an "industry standard" in the future.  The big barrier to its acceptance is whether Apple will support it.  Currently they don't - but they don't sell audio on the iTunes store in their own ALAC lossless codec either - meaning a lose/lose situation for those of us who accept that physical digital audio delivery formats are heading to extinction, but who would still like a high-fidelity format that is widely used by the end listener base.

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Re: No DDP via FTP... WTF?
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2009, 10:28:19 am »

FYI. We can and do accept DDP files for replication via FTP at DiscMakers.

Do understand though that we are a big ship, not a speedboat, and sometimes it takes a while to change course. The reluctance to accept masters via upload was more of a workflow issue, and not so much a technical one with the plant. If we book 100 new jobs in a day, there has to be some way to track where all of those masters are, and since delivery on physical media was the norm for so long that is what our flow developed around here, a physical master traveling with the appropriate paperwork.

You or your client just need to inform the Product Specialist or Project Manager you're dealng with that you wish to upload your master(if they say we can't accept it that way just politely inform them that we certainly can and you received that information from me). Log in information will be generated and e-mailed to you so you can complete the upload.

In the very near future we will be making available an uploader that any client or studio can access to upload files for replication or mastering. I also spoke with a mastering engineer at AES who was interested in us providing a dedicated FTP share for studios in our Studio Partner program. We're exploring this as well, and this would certainly simplify the process of delivering masters to us for those studios that do a lot of business with us.

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Re: No DDP via FTP... WTF?
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2009, 10:59:53 am »

Welcome, Brian, and thanks for the info - that's great news!
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Re: No DDP via FTP... WTF?
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2009, 12:41:52 pm »

blip wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 10:28

FYI. We can and do accept DDP files for replication via FTP at DiscMakers.

Do understand though that we are a big ship, not a speedboat, and sometimes it takes a while to change course. The reluctance to accept masters via upload was more of a workflow issue, and not so much a technical one with the plant. If we book 100 new jobs in a day, there has to be some way to track where all of those masters are, and since delivery on physical media was the norm for so long that is what our flow developed around here, a physical master traveling with the appropriate paperwork.

You or your client just need to inform the Product Specialist or Project Manager you're dealng with that you wish to upload your master(if they say we can't accept it that way just politely inform them that we certainly can and you received that information from me). Log in information will be generated and e-mailed to you so you can complete the upload.

In the very near future we will be making available an uploader that any client or studio can access to upload files for replication or mastering. I also spoke with a mastering engineer at AES who was interested in us providing a dedicated FTP share for studios in our Studio Partner program. We're exploring this as well, and this would certainly simplify the process of delivering masters to us for those studios that do a lot of business with us.


Thanks for this information, Brian..!  I was told recently that Oasis was purchased by Discmakers, is this true?

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Re: No DDP via FTP... WTF?
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2009, 01:09:11 pm »

Chuck, Disc Makers doesn't own Oasis, we're both owned by the same parent company.

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« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2009, 12:47:45 am »

Actually just today I was able to upload to disc makers via FTP.  

They don't have it all set up yet, so there are still a few quirks.  But I got to test out their setup to help get it running.  So far so good.



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« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2009, 02:31:20 pm »

 Smile Glad it worked out for you!



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Re: No DDP via FTP... WTF?
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2009, 08:43:46 am »

zmix wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 11:41

blip wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 10:28

FYI. We can and do accept DDP files for replication via FTP at DiscMakers.

Do understand though that we are a big ship, not a speedboat, and sometimes it takes a while to change course. The reluctance to accept masters via upload was more of a workflow issue, and not so much a technical one with the plant. If we book 100 new jobs in a day, there has to be some way to track where all of those masters are, and since delivery on physical media was the norm for so long that is what our flow developed around here, a physical master traveling with the appropriate paperwork.

You or your client just need to inform the Product Specialist or Project Manager you're dealng with that you wish to upload your master(if they say we can't accept it that way just politely inform them that we certainly can and you received that information from me). Log in information will be generated and e-mailed to you so you can complete the upload.

In the very near future we will be making available an uploader that any client or studio can access to upload files for replication or mastering. I also spoke with a mastering engineer at AES who was interested in us providing a dedicated FTP share for studios in our Studio Partner program. We're exploring this as well, and this would certainly simplify the process of delivering masters to us for those studios that do a lot of business with us.


Thanks for this information, Brian..!  I was told recently that Oasis was purchased by Discmakers, is this true?

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Re: No DDP via FTP... WTF?
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2009, 09:23:20 pm »

That's really interesting. In my pressing plant days, we always transferred CDR to DDP. That was before Eclipse input media testing was available. The idea was to transfer the data and rebuild the subcode (PQ & R-W) information cleanly before going to glass.  

After the CDs were produced, we'd run a data comparison/verify.

It's not surprising to me that the plants want physical media still. Anything that resemble a "black box" or is new and different does not mesh well with that kind of production environment. Changing input media specifications requires an engineering process change, then all of procedures need to be updated, and the customer service and production staff need to be retrained. Of course they will make costly mistakes in the process.

If there's any chance that there could be problems, they will shoot it down. Without something physical, the perceived weak link may be in the verification step.
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Re: No DDP via FTP... WTF?
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2009, 05:59:02 pm »

Dana, you are correct. Everything is converted to DDP, not the other way around.

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Re: No DDP via FTP... WTF?
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2009, 04:00:42 pm »

blip wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 09:28

FYI. We can and do accept DDP files for replication via FTP at DiscMakers.



I just got off the phone with Joe Roman at DiscMakers. He was emphatic that they DO NOT accept DDP...

Has this changed in the last few days??


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Re: No DDP via FTP... WTF?
« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2009, 10:08:50 pm »

Had the same issue yesterday with Henry Gil.... it stressed my client out (since he's on a deadline and the DDP shaves a day off the schedule).

I wrote Mr. Gil.  Regrettably, I don't think its appropriate to post that missive on a public forum.

And, yes, they accept do DDPs.
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Re: No DDP via FTP... WTF?
« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2009, 11:19:53 pm »

Yes, they did finally accept the DDP. I'll let Brian elaborate rather than further muddy the DM waters.

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Re: No DDP via FTP... WTF?
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2009, 05:00:10 pm »

Greg Reierson wrote on Wed, 25 November 2009 22:19

Yes, they did finally accept the DDP. I'll let Brian elaborate rather than further muddy the DM waters.

GR


Confused  Yeah, sorry again about the confusion Greg.

We had to try to limit the number of FTP uploads we were accepting until the IT dept. wraps up work on our new upload site. So the sales staff was told to try to keep uploaded masters to a minimum, though they shouldn't be denying that option completely.

Seems like everyone was trying to upload a master this busy season in hopes of shaving some time off their turn! Shocked






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Re: No DDP via FTP... WTF?
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2009, 05:21:43 pm »

TotalSonic wrote on Fri, 16 October 2009 14:10


btw - the "greenest" policy regarding CD's is just not to make them!!  

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