Thanks for your input Galil I passed on the console and from your later posts it was a good decision. All I wanted to use were the pre's if they were like some of the Yamaha's of that era and was advertised to have the same discrete make up in those that do have it, WRONG, deal off and quick.
Thanks again and also thanks to Barkley for his great piece of information. If Yamaha was trying to "Me To" with the discrete greats of the era they could have started with good intentions and made some good discrete pre's in the 1st couple of offering's in their PM series and they are well liked, the reason I wanted 12 of them. Problem that Yamaha I bet found out quick was they were making low margins selling low in to the Neve, API, etc., etc., etc. market.
Retiring from a corporation heavy in marketing and all that implies I can see them recommending the manuel miss print on purpose to sell these small footprint boards and getting a premium. The guy with the M512 may have a manuel with similar miss information.
PSW's a great place to get hard answer's answered, a wonderful place, AND you get constant participation, persistence if a issue requires it, "World Class Advice" from some of "Recording Histories" icon's in Klaus, Oliver, Fletcher and some other's that are unknown to me and a lot of people not as well known to the recording World as Esa and his AKG D series genius.
I'm a member of other forums and all have merit but I'm 10 for 10 in a month here on PSW for real needs, 100%, it doesn't get any better than that.
Thanks to all again, regards ,,deda,,