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General question about hardware
« on: October 06, 2009, 07:45:17 pm »


I was auditioning summing mixers on vintageking site. After listening 1-2 samples I noticed that the improvement was more on the accuracy rather than color (some mixing engineers were discussing about summing mixers benefits on a different forum and this made me wonder).

I thought why not just send the song to a mastering engineer instead of buying them couse they aren't cheap and seems there's a better work-around to finish the all ITB mix...anyway...

The results were more like optimizing with min-phase eq on mastering stage. I'm still self-tutoring myself and currently have to depend a lot on plug-ins couse I don't have mastering grade room or monitors (I have to "analyze" the song).

This made me think if hardware designed for mastering also does this (maybe a compressor?) as simple as how the summing mixers do-though I'm aware they work very different.

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Re: General question about hardware
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2009, 07:59:06 pm »

The whole summing mixer discussion is a farce if you don't talk about the converters used to feed the summing mixer.  What's the point of a summing mixer if you have crappy DAs?

Additionally, you have to consider the use of outboard gear.  If you're shooting buses to use rack gear, then it makes sense to go OTB.  But if you're just adding a summing mixer because some one on a forum or a salesman said so.... I don't get it.  I don't see how the DA (and possibly another AD) is better for the sound if you're not getting something like outboard gear in the equation.

You're right to try to evaluate audio samples.  Listeners don't care what gear we used.  They just care if they like it.


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Re: General question about hardware
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2009, 09:43:55 pm »

I've been at shootouts with a few of the popular models, and I didn't find the differences subtle when volume matched and A/B'd between both the mixers and PTHD ITB.

It just came down to which one you like best.  
Cass Anawaty, Chief Engineer
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Re: General question about hardware
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2009, 01:37:46 am »

I'm waiting for someone to use these things as a good excuse to print to tape instead of bringing it back in the box. Wink
Respectfully submitted,

Dana J. White

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