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[BrianF]

I was wondering if there are any sonic differences between the 2. Also a feature comparison of the two.

Any thoughts of this would be appreciated!!

Brian

[OatBran]

I'd also be curious as to wether or not Sequoia fits into any of this anywhere.  It appears to be a 'bells and whistles' version of Samplitude, but I am unsure.

Oats

[Ronny]

BrianF wrote on Sat, 17 July 2004 14:51

I was wondering if there are any sonic differences between the 2. Also a feature comparison of the two. Any thoughts of this would be appreciated!! Brian

The major difference of quality of the "raw" sound, WRT most good quality DAW programs, is not the program itself, it's the quality of the conversion back to analog signal at the soundcard or outboard DAC. While the audio resides on the hard drive, they are all pretty much in the same ballpark. Some have better editing internal processors of course, but the major weak link is the converter and plug-ins operate much the same WRT quality on all progs that are using the same plug-in. For example a Waves LP-EQ, will sound the same on two different audio progs, that utilize the same DAC. If you have good DAC's, the sonic difference are minimal between many of the commonly used high end mastering DAW progs, IMHO.

[bblackwood]

From a sonic standpoint, you won't hear a diff.

From a feature standpoint, Sadie (like Sonic) being a dedicated mastering platform, gives you the ability right 'out of the box' to cut masters in virtually any format used by manufacturing plants: CDr, DDP (Exabyte or CDrom), & 1630.

Sampltiude can only cut audio CDrs out of the box, but you can optionally add DDP support (as I did), though 1630 is not an option.

Sequoia comes with DDP out of the box, but again, no 1630. The main diff right now between Samp and Sequoia is deeper/more flexible editin abilites in Seq as well as the ability to use the highly touted Algorythmix plugins. Samp and Seq will start to really grow apart in version 8 (for example, version 8 will no longer allow the addition of DDP support in Samp), so I am now looking at upgrading to Seq for that reason alone...

[Level]

Brad..I wonder when 1630 will lay down and take its last breath. I still have that old fossel around here someplace.....

(It has been a long while)

[bblackwood]

Level wrote on Sun, 18 July 2004 21:56

Brad..I wonder when 1630 will lay down and take its last breath. I still have that old fossel around here someplace..... (It has been a long while)

Indeed - I haven't even had a request for 1630 in over two years...

All the labels spec DDP (or even audio CDr) on their POs now it seems...

[BrianF]

Thanks for the great info! I currently use a SADiE but it's getting on in age and will need to make a move in the near future.  Samplitude seems to be a complete system but I've be spoiled with the SADiE features especially the PQ functions and it's editing.

Regarding 1630, DDP and CD-R, most clients are requesting PMCD vs DDP. Last week I did a project for Universal and they wanted the PMCD and not the DDP.

Go figure that,  I would prefer the DDP myself but they pay the bills.

Is anyone sending DDP on CD-R?

Brian

[Rich Mays]

BrianF wrote on Mon, 19 July 2004 11:37

Is anyone sending DDP on CD-R?

I am on Seq and always send yellowbook DDP CD-Rs except when the file size precludes burning to a 800MB CD-R.

Rich

[bblackwood]

BrianF wrote on Mon, 19 July 2004 10:37

Is anyone sending DDP on CD-R?

Exabyte went the way of the dodo about 18 months ago as far as I'm concerned. All DDP is on disc now (or FTP)...

[BrianF]

So Brad are you using Samplitude and their DDP solution?

Brian

[bblackwood]

Yes, Brian. This weeekend I have a meeting to talk to the rep about upgrading to Sequoia, but for now, it's Samp7 with DDP...

[OTR-jkl]

Quote:

Samp and Seq will start to really grow apart in version 8 (for example, version 8 will no longer allow the addition of DDP support in Samp)

Brad -
Do you know if it will still be available for 7.x versions - or are they nuking it for Samp altogether...?

[bblackwood]

OTR-jkl wrote on Mon, 19 July 2004 23:12

Quote: Samp and Seq will start to really grow apart in version 8 (for example, version 8 will no longer allow the addition of DDP support in Samp) Brad - Do you know if it will still be available for 7.x versions - or are they nuking it for Samp altogether...?

My understanding is that it will no longer be available once V8 is released, though if you have it already it will work under V8. If you want it and are unwilling to upgrade to Sequoia (which may indeed be worth it - I'll know soon enough) you should probably buy the DDP option now...

[BrianF]

Brad,

Are you coming over to NAMM?  I need to hook up with Tom as well. E-mail me if want to meet up.

Brian

[bblackwood]

BrianF wrote on Tue, 20 July 2004 08:10

Brad, Are you coming over to NAMM?  I need to hook up with Tom as well. E-mail me if want to meet up.

Not attending NAMM, but will be in Nashvegas this weekend for MW's BBQ...

Will probably try to hook up with Tom sometime over the weekend. Are you going tot he BBQ, Brian?

[BrianF]

I'm supposed to go but I 'm not if I can make the time due to some family matters.

brian