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j.hall

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them crooked vultures
« on: August 20, 2009, 03:09:46 pm »

Dave Grohl
Josh Homme
John Paul Jones

YUP!!

looking forward to this one.
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2009, 01:12:50 am »

me too. http://cdn.pitchfork.com/media/crookedvultures452.jpg
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2009, 08:35:50 am »

+10

Heard the 14 sec snippet on you tube and I can't wait.
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2009, 09:28:34 am »

Wow.


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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2009, 11:41:56 am »

typek wrote on Fri, 21 August 2009 00:12

me too. http://cdn.pitchfork.com/media/crookedvultures452.jpg


who's that other guitar player?

josh Homme is looking like he's cleaned his life up a bit.  (at least from all the rumors, it seemed he wasn't on a good path)  

is QotS still active?
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2009, 01:41:21 pm »

I believe thats Alain Johannes from QotS.
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2009, 01:49:29 pm »

Yes, Alain Johannes, great musician and producer. Check out his band Eleven.

Gabriel Fonts.
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2009, 04:01:52 pm »



WOW !

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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2009, 03:00:05 pm »

There are a couple full live clips on Youtube from a festival show they did. Sound quality is decent enough to get the idea.

I was less than impressed.

I had high hopes.
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2009, 10:51:03 pm »

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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2009, 12:20:50 am »

Oh man I can't wait to hear the album! J, as far as I know QOTSA are definitely still going! I saw them twice last year and they had some stuff I'd never heard before (could have been B-sides from Era Vulgaris though I guess.) Anyway didn't Josh Homme produce the latest Arctic monkeys album?
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2009, 02:39:25 pm »

Josh McArdle wrote on Sat, 29 August 2009 00:20

Oh man I can't wait to hear the album! J, as far as I know QOTSA are definitely still going! I saw them twice last year and they had some stuff I'd never heard before (could have been B-sides from Era Vulgaris though I guess.) Anyway didn't Josh Homme produce the latest Arctic monkeys album?



Yes he did. I'll tell you, I'm really looking forward to hearing this whole album. All three of these guys are powerhouses.
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2009, 09:56:07 pm »

this just released

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YalghA3dGvI

I can't wait for this
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2009, 02:19:34 am »

I saw them perform last week. Great outfit, and Alain Johannes is a major player. Amazing complicity between JPJ and Dave Grohl. Quite big basses involved, 8 and 12 strings, one I would call "belly steel" !

Kinda redefine Jazz Rock.Not so much QUOTSA in it.
Can't wait to hear the record too.

I was a bit sad to see Alain Johannes. Don't get me wrong, he was really great on stage, but you could feel he'd been thru a lot of pain lately. Not the man I had seen 3 years ago.

He still have all my thoughts.
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2009, 12:14:05 pm »

GREAT SHOW!
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« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2009, 12:21:19 am »

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYT5fwmezPM&feature=relat ed
"Dave Grohl, Josh Homme & Jesse Hughes- Born on the Bayou (Live 2005)"

no bass here... imo, the mojo does work. refreshing.

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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2009, 02:19:12 pm »

Album preview (make sure you use HQ):  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ6arQ-qK34&feature=PlayL ist&p=FCC1368DF9BDE312&index=0&playnext=1
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2009, 11:32:45 am »

Album released today...
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2009, 10:32:09 pm »

I just got this today.  I like it!  Unlike most supergroup-type records, there are good songs and the guys actually sound like they're playing together.

It's a cool recording, too -- some nice nods to classic sounds without getting into 'cover engineering' territory.
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2010, 02:19:57 am »

I just picked this one up. Seems like they used a lot of 'room' on some sounds to hint at some space, while still keeping everything in your face at all times. Kind of cool, but I wish they had actually had the balls to keep and make effective use of some headroom.

*sigh*
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2010, 01:07:50 pm »

I just had the opportunity to hear the album in its entirety last night, and have to say that I really enjoyed it. I was pretty unimpressed with the pre-release Youtube footage, but the album is great.
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2010, 07:43:18 pm »

Man, the kick sound on "Scumbag Blues" and in other songs is awesome. Really roomy and with a great stereo image. I'm guessing it's a sample ... cause it's sooo great!
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2010, 11:50:51 am »

The whole record sounds like real drums to me.
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2010, 10:16:59 am »

Listening to this in my headphones for the first time at work. The HP's are nothing special, but holy hell is this a fatiguing listen in cans.

Totally fine on my large tower speaker set up at home, but it's wearing my ears out real fast right now.

Regardless, the songs are great.
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2010, 11:03:12 pm »

2-inch 8-track analog, if the rumours are true.
Amazing variety of sounds and textures accross all the songs.
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2010, 04:47:44 pm »

I saw the Roxy show a few months ago  Dave was so good he stole the show imo- and Alain shined also   all around fun and great show   So go see them if they come to your town!  

Yo Seb,   I talked to Alain after the show he was in good spirits as much as one could be -  Truly a fantastic musician.

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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2010, 06:53:36 am »

Hey John !
Good to read that
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2010, 02:10:03 pm »

I've just got hold of the record. It's really good.
And yes it sounds like real drum to me, Dave Grohl's kick drum  have a "bouncy" tick that you can hear on any record or live show he plays. Funny, it brings back to a recent thread about in and out kick mics. this album is the perfect balance to me.

On record, the "psyched" aspect of the band really jumps out to my ears and I dig it. "Bandoliers" is a damn good track.

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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2010, 11:56:52 am »

loop playing the record, i find the drum sounds and playing are as close to Bonham as you can get, even though Grohl has definetely his thing.
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2010, 10:57:08 am »

First time I put this record on I closed my eyes and it sounded like the band was right in front of me.

Sound like it's been squished...I think probably everything I don't like about this album is due to limiting. It's like playing hunt the snare sometimes...

Still, the sounds are amazing and the space and depth is f***ing awesome. Really good production and musicianship going on...I really like this album.  Smile
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2010, 10:00:53 am »

Josh McArdle wrote on Sat, 17 April 2010 09:57



Sound like it's been squished...I think probably everything I don't like about this album is due to limiting. It's like playing hunt the snare sometimes...

Still, the sounds are amazing and the space and depth is f***ing awesome. Really good production and musicianship going on...I really like this album.  Smile



This seems a little contradictory. Sounds too squished... Yet has lots of space and depth?

Explain.
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« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2010, 10:47:10 pm »

I'm not sure this is what Josh meant, but the 'space and depth' I love is more about the song arrangements, and how the sounds themselves have been recorded.  On a number of tracks on the album there's something distance miked, or has some of what mostly sounds like "real" ambience/effect captured in the recording.  It gives a great character, and those tracks save everything from being flat and in your face.  From the drums and bells opening of No-one loves me, the main riff guitar sounds in Elephants and Bandoliers... at least, thats the depth I enjoy on the album (as well as some great playing! Smile)

I saw the Vultures out here in Melbourne a while back, and it was an AWESOME show.  As per the other comments, Dave was definitely the highlight for me and his live sounds were pretty much what you expect to hear after the album (not sure, but a rack of Distressors looked to be his).  The rest of the band were also great, and being a QOTSA fan also it was sort of nice seeing Josh up front but not being 'the main guy'.

Best rock album and show I've heard for a long time.
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #33 on: April 21, 2010, 06:16:52 pm »

typek wrote on Tue, 20 April 2010 09:00

Josh McArdle wrote on Sat, 17 April 2010 09:57



Sound like it's been squished...I think probably everything I don't like about this album is due to limiting. It's like playing hunt the snare sometimes...

Still, the sounds are amazing and the space and depth is f***ing awesome. Really good production and musicianship going on...I really like this album.  Smile



This seems a little contradictory. Sounds too squished... Yet has lots of space and depth?

Explain.


Sorry, I didn't word that very well! In terms of space and depth I'm talking about ambience. I like that you can really hear the room and the positions of the instruments. The use of more ambient micing techniques makes a nice change from the real in your face sound that seems to dominate most modern rock records. Definitely the arrangements too, it's been cleverly put together.

What I mean by squished is that it sounds to me like things are being clamped down on a little hard. The snare in certain parts for example, but it doesn't exactly make me wrinkle my nose Razz
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #34 on: April 21, 2010, 08:50:33 pm »

To my ears, the drums are really well-balanced --  you hear the kit as a whole instead of as a collection of disembodied samples.  It doesn't have a super-loud, super-processed snare riding on top of everything, but that's a good thing to me.
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« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2010, 08:30:37 am »

Ok, I get it. Yeah, I agree. One thing I love about this album is that everything has a nice sounding "room" to it. It is refreshing, compared to many of the close miked, sampled, real in your face huge sounding stuff. There is a place for that sound of course - but the sounds they used on the Them Crooked Vultures album fit perfectly.

And I also agree that it does sound a bit more squashed than I would have liked, dynamics wise.
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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2010, 06:33:03 pm »

Reg. sound quality - isn't the beauty of this album(besides the obvious) in the cool, old-school "roomy" sound it has? I hear exactly what you mean when you say its a little squashed but the first thing I noticed when I popped it in was the nod to that old-school sound. LOVE it!

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Re: them crooked vultures
« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2010, 05:05:54 pm »

From the Q&A with Alan Moulder initiated by Bob Ebeling on Whatever Works Forum, the answer from the man himself :

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Grohl's Kick:  We did use a lot of room mics but they changed from song to song, every track had a different approach to the drum sound. I used a Beyer on the close kick (an M380 I think) and on quite a few a very old Altec mic that was big and heavy and had very little output level that was about 4 foot away and put through an Ampex mic pre which also had low level so I had to turn it up to a level it distorted on the input but we were trying to be creative! On some tracks we sent the kick out to a tiny amp that was pretty distorted. I used a lot of different room mics that helped with the decay of the kick too.... I think it may have been the sum of them all that resulted in the end product. In general, I don't have any specific tips with outside mics, I never measure distances or anything. I tend to get try and use something different as much as possible and if the studio has a mic that looks interesting I'll put it up and see what it sounds like, then move it around until it sounds good. The more bored I get, the more adventurous the mic placement!


Best.


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