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Re: Bad mixes ad nauseum
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2009, 09:58:39 am »

If I have the time I sometimes like to use "crap mixes" as good places for a little "r&d" to see what combination of processing can be pushed harder to get things to a place where the client is happier with the end result than they thought could be even possible.  Other times some of the mixing "mistakes" are actually very deliberate on the part of the mixer so that dramatic reshaping is not what they want at all.  Simple good communication is all that it takes to find out which of these approaches is what that they want.

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Re: Bad mixes ad nauseum
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2009, 03:04:46 pm »

Greg Reierson wrote on Thu, 30 July 2009 06:55

djwaudio wrote on Thu, 30 July 2009 00:41

Unusual mixes should still receive a great mastering job.

I had one recently where the drums and voice was panned hard left. The bass and all other instruments were hard right. The client was unaware of his panning decisions and said "that's just the way it comes out of my machine".  

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Re: Bad mixes ad nauseum
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2009, 12:00:39 am »

The best part is when the client asks you (with a big smile on his face) . .
Which song did you like best?

Do you think this should be the first single? . . .

Confused    (mastering engineer scratches head . .)

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Re: Bad mixes ad nauseum
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2009, 08:09:49 am »

Thomas W. Bethel wrote on Tue, 28 July 2009 13:54

Welcome to the wonderful world of basement recording....

Most of the stuff I get in from the basement/bedroom artists is severely boosted at 60 to 90 Hz as well as all the problems you mentioned. It HAS to be the monitor speakers. Most of these clients must be using speakers from their computers or something with no response below 100 Hz.

Best of luck!

A very common thing in private bedroom studios is to purchase a pair of "studio monitors" that roll off completely above 60 Hz or so. This makes them not hear the fundamental of the electric bass (and similar sources) and instead try and balance the bass sound and low end by listening to the harmonics which are, of course, a lot lower in level compared to the fundamental.
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Re: Bad mixes ad nauseum
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2009, 01:40:29 pm »

Let's not forget the room modes that exist in the standard American ranch-style bedroom and the manner in which they exhibit themselves in a bedroom studio production.

A typical 14'x9'x7.5' bedroom is going to have significant modes at 60Hz, 80Hz and 120Hz, approx. If the interaction is destructive (i.e. canceling in nature) you're closet engineer is going to be reaching for those bass knobs as a matter of habit.

I always ask for room measurements of spaces used in home recordings. It's nice to know what not to expect.
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