Nick Sevilla wrote on Mon, 20 July 2009 16:24 |
rob s wrote on Sun, 19 July 2009 19:30 | i bought a 63 vibro verb re issue sight unseen based having played a real one. what a shrill piece of shit that re issue is. even with retubing and speakering. yuch.
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Expecting something new to sound like something old, is like expecting Santa Claus to show up today.
Anyways, I'm trying to ge tsome samples of the Fender Deluxe amplifier I reviewed originally here, and let others decide if they like it or not.
To me personally, an amplifier is just that : it amplifies what you put in. A lot of people complain about how crappy this or that amp sounds... is it really the amp?
Cheers
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Well, in a relativist way you are right - the playing obviously justifies the tone. I little transistor practice amp can sound great if it fits the part, etc... I have a line 6 2-12 amp I picked up for $60 bucks! I guess because they are so horrible? I can make it work live... wouldn't want to record with it.
BTW... rethink the comment about amps when it comes to the world of guitar. Exactly what guitar amp puts out what you put in?
I think that carries over to ALL amps, but in the world of guitar, an amp that puts out what you put in is generally VERY undesirable.
... but I think that the main point here, besides the issue of the Hot Rod Deluxe, is that you can get the re-issue Fender amplifiers, and put old speakers in, NOS tubes, etc., etc., but they still will sound miles away from authentic. I'm of the belief that tone pots actually have a decent amount to do with it as well... most everything in those amps is fairly different. They should just market them as "the current model" instead of dressing them up like they are re-issues, like they did for years. I'm ok with THAT.
I also don't think it's always all about aging of parts, though it is definitely about the parts. For instance, it's not the the new Deluxe's, or Super Reverbs sound different than the vintage simply because they are new and not played in.