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j.hall

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IMP21 discussion
« on: May 06, 2009, 09:57:24 am »

the song rocks, the tracking rocks.  i squeezed off two hours to play with it.  if i have time i'll do a touch more automation, i'm doubting i'll have time.  at least i'll submit a mix this time.
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Eric H.

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Re: IMP21 discussion
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2009, 06:49:08 pm »

Abuse of Autotune on the lead voc?
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Re: IMP21 discussion
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2009, 08:56:42 pm »

Man...it's there...but that's not even CLOSE to the most abusive AT I've heard.  I was actually remarking to myself that the guy who tuned it did a pretty good job keeping the artifacting to a minimum.

And J wasn't kidding about the tracking kicking ass.  Really bang-up work.
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Re: IMP21 discussion
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2009, 10:36:28 pm »

this AT job is solid.  i have no complaints about the tracking, editing, or track management, this is a pro session through and through.

wish the guitar tracks were brighter, but it wasn't an issue in my quicky mix.

have fun with all the BGVs.  i used them all, and enjoyed them all.

not sure why this band isn't touring with fall out boy.........then again, maybe they are, i don't even know who they are.


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Re: IMP21 discussion
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2009, 01:16:02 am »

Actually...the only thing that bugged me at all was the compression of the OH on tracking felt like it choked the snare a little more than I would have liked...that and the stereo balance with regard to the snare tilted a little to the left for my tastes, but I'm really anal about snare centering in the OH...ESPECIALLY when the OH is this good and can be such a great foundation to the drumkit.

That and the kick in mic was obviously a Beta 52.  It works fine in the mix...but there's something about it that I just don't really like...the top has a sort of grit and grind to it that I'm just not a fan of, personally.  Doesn't stop me from using it and being happy with the mix, though.

Actually...this is probably the second kit I've mixed in the last 6 months or better that I didn't feel compelled to use sample replacements on.

I guess what I'm saying is that personally, there are choices I'd have made differently, but I'm in no way saying that this is anything short of a really great set of tracks to work on.

It'd be great if the tracking guy would please stand up!  I'd love to hear more about this session...perhaps once the mixes are all in!
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Re: IMP21 discussion
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2009, 09:56:43 am »

as usual, it's completely up the user who volunteered these tracks to "out" himself.  i stay out of all that.

bottom line here is that the band is tight, the tracks are pro, there is little wiggle room for a crappy mix.  you can't ask for an easier mix gig.  you can only ask for different choices which yield different sonic tracks.  that's all opinion based.


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Re: IMP21 discussion
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2009, 02:14:34 pm »



Reminds me of Paramore a lot!

I'm busy as snot, and just downloaded out of curiosity, but now I MUST make time to do this one.  Good stuff!

Good tracking but there are a few spots where the timing could be tighter. (a couple of Drum fills and vox mainly)  But all in all pretty good stuff!

PS:  Anybody figure out the BPM on this?

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Re: IMP21 discussion
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2009, 05:22:05 pm »

index.php/fa/12149/0/



Huh?
Did you miss Grant THAT much?




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Re: IMP21 discussion
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2009, 05:34:49 pm »

nope.  you'll see a lot more of me from June forward.
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Re: IMP21 discussion
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2009, 06:04:45 pm »

rankus wrote on Thu, 07 May 2009 13:14



Reminds me of Paramore a lot!

I'm busy as snot, and just downloaded out of curiosity, but now I MUST make time to do this one.  Good stuff!

Good tracking but there are a few spots where the timing could be tighter. (a couple of Drum fills and vox mainly)  But all in all pretty good stuff!

PS:  Anybody figure out the BPM on this?




I got it right around 110.  Might be 109...but 110's probably close enough.
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Re: IMP21 discussion
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2009, 06:29:11 pm »

Podgorny wrote on Thu, 07 May 2009 16:22

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Huh?
Did you miss Grant THAT much?








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Re: IMP21 discussion
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2009, 06:34:09 am »

iCombs wrote on Thu, 07 May 2009 15:16



Reminds me of Paramore a lot!




Thats what I was thinking as well... Maybe it is Smile

rankus wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 04:14


That and the kick in mic was obviously a Beta 52. It works fine in the mix...but there's something about it that I just don't really like...the top has a sort of grit and grind to it that I'm just not a fan of, personally. Doesn't stop me from using it and being happy with the mix, though.




Agreed.  It was punchy but it just didn't quite sound right, maybe a bit flappy almost.

-Gav
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Re: IMP21 discussion
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2009, 08:59:53 am »

   
I'm not in front of the session right now, but I seem to remember that the tempo was 116, someone else?
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Re: IMP21 discussion
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2009, 01:02:16 pm »

Seem to be around 110 using nuendo tempo calculator.

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Re: IMP21 discussion
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2009, 02:15:30 pm »


Thanks on the tempo guys...  I'll have a check later.

On the kick drum.  I'm wondering why we have a clipped waveform.. snare too.. It appears to have been brick walled on the way in? Clipped converters? Perhaps limited after the fact?  Anyway, quite possibly the reason for the grit me thinks... I'm using it and it sits nicely in the track so I'm not complaining just fodder for conversation.

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