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mixwell

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Re: Daking 1112 costs?
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2009, 11:48:19 am »

Adam The Truck Driver wrote on Thu, 05 February 2009 22:56

I've never been to gearsluts...or WETF it is...what I'm asking is if I go spend 12 grand plus on outboard pres to run through the ATB, if I get one which is pretty much being used for EQ and summing only...is the ATB going to alter their sound too much, or rather lack there of should I select more transparent preamps like that, this, those and these ect, not to name names as this isn't a preamp advertisement but is about the Toft ATB and it's signal purity throughout...what I want to hear in that case on a given source is the microphone selection on the source and their respective positions to eachother within a given space...not the board...should the board have some color of its own I might not want to spend something well over a grand per channel on mic preamps...when their sound will be altered by the board...and I understand the ATB pres aren't so great...I can get some pres for less money that have great smooth sound to start with, but with a bit of color that are well under 1K per channel. So if the ATB adds a bit more color it's alright because I'll know I'm not going to be after a super clean sound anyway, cause I can't get one. If I have a 100% great sounding board with great pres to start with, as in this Daking 1112, I'd just go with it and not want additional pres...a couple pair or 3 of select outboard comps and EQs yes for mix...pres no.

I've had 3. Sorry to rant on.

I appreciate all the help, seriously.
Hell...I need to go to bed...back to work tomorrow I go.

TYVM
AB

Forget Gearslutz;

If your question is if the ATB is colored or "out of the way" its very much out of the way, with a nice smooth texture. It does have a sound like anything, and SURE there are PLENTY of better sounding consoles, with better sounding electronics, but the ATB [in total, for the dough] sounds pretty good to me, and I think you could get some work done with it and be happy. That's what my clients report to me anyway. My advice would be to get outboard [or anything gear related] that 100% fits your personal taste for what you want to to hear from your microphones and music. I would suspect an API 3124 and a Great River MP2NV along side the ATB [or whatever discrete amplifiers you like] will offer the meat and potatoes for tracking, and the ATB's preamps are for all the ancillary stuff like toms and scratch tracks. I dunno, I could cut well recorded tracks with the preamps on the board, they are just not super hero's for tone, but they do the job.  
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Re: Daking 1112 costs?
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2009, 01:39:57 pm »

Desk or pre's----just buy Daking. It's the BEST deal out there.

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Re: Daking 1112 costs?
« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2009, 07:40:28 pm »

As The Philosopher once said, "I would rather have Bob Clearmountain mixing my record through a Toft ATB than Joe Schmo through a perfect original Neve 80xx."
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Re: Daking 1112 costs?
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2009, 09:22:07 pm »

I'd rather have Bob Clearmountain mixing my record through an ATB than his SSL
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Re: Daking 1112 costs?
« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2009, 10:11:51 am »

Well, I didn't want to say it, but...
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Re: Daking 1112 costs?
« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2009, 10:26:02 am »

The ATB, sadly, won't mix the record for you.
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Re: Daking 1112 costs?
« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2009, 10:57:06 pm »

No.
you need PLUG INS for that.


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Re: Daking 1112 costs?
« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2009, 02:06:07 pm »

If I could I wouldn't use any plug-ins. We'll see.
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Re: Daking 1112 costs?
« Reply #38 on: February 09, 2009, 12:38:05 am »

I know. I have to pay my dues. I'll go with Mackie.
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Re: Daking 1112 costs?
« Reply #39 on: February 09, 2009, 12:46:57 pm »

wwittman wrote on Fri, 06 February 2009 21:22

I'd rather have Bob Clearmountain mixing my record through an ATB than his SSL



But how are you going to get 'todays sound' with out an SSL?



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Re: Daking 1112 costs?
« Reply #40 on: February 09, 2009, 08:00:58 pm »

Leonardo Valvassori wrote on Mon, 09 February 2009 12:46



But how are you going to get 'todays sound' with out an SSL?



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I know. I have to settle for using the L-2 to flatten everything.
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Re: Daking 1112 costs?
« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2009, 11:19:36 pm »

So, what did you get, Adam?
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Re: Daking 1112 costs?
« Reply #42 on: June 01, 2009, 08:04:30 pm »

Nothing as yet. I hit a wall. Lost my big cash flow I had going. I've taken on more bills, the kind you pay, not the good kind.
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Re: Daking 1112 costs?
« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2009, 12:57:34 am »

For what it's worth, I own a Toft ATB-24, one of the pilot program consoles.

I've used a Neotek, and I think the EQs in the Toft are far superior, while the pres in the Neotek are slightly better. The pres in the Toft are perfectly usable, but they don't provide quite enough gain for my ribbon mics on quiet sources. That said, they do the job. It's worth noting that the Toft will expose any grounding issues in your setup, the mains wiring in my home studio (in the loft of my victorian house), isn't ideal, and I definitely have some issues with ground hum. That's not the Toft's fault though, and I'm able to work around it most of the time.

The workflow and routing on the Toft is also very good. It's very easy to work on, and I can quickly dial in a rough mix.

I think that for your budget, a Toft + some outboard pres would make you very happy. You shouldn't take my word for it though... It's well worth booking a day in studios which have the consoles you've shortlisted, to see which one you get on best with.

Best of luck!
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Re: Daking 1112 costs?
« Reply #44 on: June 30, 2009, 10:16:51 am »

I've owned both a Neotek for 10 years and a Daking for the same.
As much as I loved the Neotek, and it is a great console, there is nothing sonically similar between the two.
The Daking is Punchy, sweet, warm, and just plain Big sounding by comparison.
The Neotek, was nice, very clean with good Eq, but it never made my hair stand up, if ya know what I mean.
It did what it was supposed to, and nothing more!

The Daking on the other hand is a new classic.
I had Desk #1 as I am the guy who commissioned Geoff to build me a console.
7 years and three prototypes later,we now have a Daking console.
You all can blame me!

It's every bit as good as a Neve, Api, Trident,  etc, etc....

Over and out!

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