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Warren Mcstay

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Large diaphragm condensers
« on: January 31, 2009, 09:26:44 PM »

Hi guys,

I'm looking to purchase a matched pair of LDC's, unfortunately I'm on a budget of around
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hargerst

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Re: Large diaphragm condensers
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2009, 09:36:07 PM »

I found the Rode NT1 to be a bit on the bright side; a bit too bright for my taste.  I haven't heard the "A" version, so I can't comment on that.  Studio Projects, MXL, ADK, and Avant have some excellent low cost mics available.
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Re: Large diaphragm condensers
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2009, 11:46:59 PM »

My advice is to avoid the NT1 and NT1a (especially). The Rode NT1000 is a much better microphone. However, if you can afford a pair ot NT2000 you will be so much more diverse regardless of the recording task at hand.
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Re: Large diaphragm condensers
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2009, 03:05:13 PM »

Hey Warren,

Make sure you check out the responses you received in your original thread..... KSM32 getting a lot of votes for your needs & budget.
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Re: Large diaphragm condensers
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2009, 09:31:52 PM »

I'd also recommend the KSM32. Great mic and sounds good on everything.

-Lance
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Rasmuth

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Re: Large diaphragm condensers
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2009, 01:07:42 PM »

You also may want to look into Sterling Audio.
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Larry Villella

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Re: Large diaphragm condensers
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2009, 01:36:30 AM »



My question would be why do you want a matched pair?

If you need a couple of all-around studio condensers,
then it's often better to go "Asymetrical" , i.e. two
different "Tone-Colors". Complimentary, but not identical
would be what I'd want to be left on a desert island with . . .

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Re: Large diaphragm condensers
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2009, 02:38:46 PM »

Larry Villella wrote on Sat, 04 July 2009 00:36

My question would be why do you want a matched pair?

If you need a couple of all-around studio condensers,
then it's often better to go "Asymetrical" , i.e. two
different "Tone-Colors". Complimentary, but not identical
would be what I'd want to be left on a desert island with . . .

Good call, Larry,

I missed that in the original post, and I agree.  Two different LDC's makes a lot more sense. Two identical SDC's however would be a different story.
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Re: Large diaphragm condensers
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2009, 07:51:57 PM »

Larry Villella wrote on Sat, 04 July 2009 06:36



My question would be why do you want a matched pair?

If you need a couple of all-around studio condensers,
then it's often better to go "Asymetrical" , i.e. two
different "Tone-Colors". Complimentary, but not identical
would be what I'd want to be left on a desert island with . . .

I disagree, with a pair he can make stereo recordings, I believe that ideally microphones should be bought in pairs, this whole "color" argument is for everything is way overrated...

Musicians and their instruments provide color.
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Re: Large diaphragm condensers
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2009, 11:03:25 PM »

Samc wrote on Sun, 12 July 2009 19:51

I disagree, with a pair he can make stereo recordings, I believe that ideally microphones should be bought in pairs, this whole "color" argument is for everything is way overrated...

Musicians and their instruments provide color.



I mostly agree with this.
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Re: Large diaphragm condensers
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2009, 10:15:02 PM »

compasspnt wrote on Mon, 13 July 2009 04:03

Samc wrote on Sun, 12 July 2009 19:51

I disagree, with a pair he can make stereo recordings, I believe that ideally microphones should be bought in pairs, this whole "color" argument is for everything is way overrated...

Musicians and their instruments provide color.



I mostly agree with this.



Me too. And I'll completely agree once I've purchased the 863 transducers I'll need to complete my Microphone Rainbow (TM). Once that is accomplished, I plan to finally make my first decent recording.

Jim McCarthy
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hargerst

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Re: Large diaphragm condensers
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2009, 12:53:40 PM »

I agree that for SDC's, you should probably always buy in pairs.  LDC's are a different story for me, since I primarily use LDC's as vocal mics, so a lotta variety in mic flavors is important to me.

IF you use (or plan on using) LDC's for miking acoustic instruments in stereo, or for overheads, then, yeah, get a matched pair.
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Re: Large diaphragm condensers
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2009, 11:08:58 AM »

[/quote]
I disagree ... this whole "color" argument is for everything is way overrated...

Musicians and their instruments provide color.[/quote]

I would have to say yes and no.  

Musicians and their instruments DO provide tone-color (timbre) - BUT - if you put a 'reedy'
Sax on a mellow A-T 4047 you'd likely get a much better result than on a brighter 4033.

It's the INTERACTION between the Color of the Source and the Color of the Microphone -
that Blending - that is the art of recording. (Or so it seems to me after 40 years of recording).


If one-mic-fits-all is what you're saying, I respectfully disagree.


The statistical proof (to me) of Harvey's statement is the fact that when
we offered Matched Pairs of LD Mics,we sold three times as many Vienna Pairs
as Hamburg.  The reason is that Vienna Pairs make great Drum O/H, while the
Hamburg is mostly a male vocal, sax and guitar cab mic (or so say our clients!).

I used to own a studio.  For the past 12 years I've run a microphone company.  

The feedback from all over the world has been pretty consistant.  Every vocalist
is looking for that one mic that matches up to their voice!  Guitarists, Sax players,
Trumpeters, they all tell me the same thing! In fact, Mark Isham's latest CD
Bittersweet has asymetrical mic technique on trumpet. The result is awesome!!


From my vantage point, you can never have enough colors!!!



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Re: Large diaphragm condensers
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2009, 12:19:34 AM »

I'll see your 40 years and raise you


I can VERY happily make a record with nothing but U87s

and have

And I've seen Ken Scott do the same... who i daresay with some certainty kicks both my bum AND yours at it.

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Re: Large diaphragm condensers
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2009, 07:37:43 AM »

How about the new Pantone?
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