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Re: RE 20 or SM 7B
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2008, 10:25:18 am »

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Re: RE 20 or SM 7B
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2008, 03:48:53 pm »

I have to say that I prefer the Re20 to the SM7 on almost anything, except bass drum, where the SM7 has a slight edge (literally) that i prefer.


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Re: RE 20 or SM 7B
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2008, 07:00:48 pm »

wwittman wrote on Mon, 01 December 2008 15:48

I have to say that I prefer the Re20 to the SM7 on almost anything, except bass drum, where the SM7 has a slight edge (literally) that i prefer.



W, where do you like to position the SM7 in this application?
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Re: RE 20 or SM 7B
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2008, 09:38:51 pm »

about half way inside the shell, coming in off center, but pointed at an angle at more or less the strike point



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Re: RE 20 or SM 7B
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2008, 11:06:24 pm »

Thanks. Will try that next time.
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Re: RE 20 or SM 7B
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2008, 01:08:32 pm »

wwittman wrote on Tue, 02 December 2008 18:38

about half way inside the shell, coming in off center, but pointed at an angle at more or less the strike point







This is my placement as well (as taught to me by my mentor, the guy who got me using SM7 on kick).  
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Re: RE 20 or SM 7B
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2008, 08:06:01 am »

wwittman wrote on Tue, 02 December 2008 20:38

about half way inside the shell, coming in off center, but pointed at an angle at more or less the strike point






Embarassed Is the mic halfway in or is the mic halfway inside the bass drum?
Sorry.

Thanks.
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Re: RE 20 or SM 7B
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2008, 04:13:32 pm »

that's a non-existent semantic difference, as far as I can see.


'how far inside the shell is the mic?'

'it's about half-way in'

seems a totally reasonable response to me.

in fact, I might find "it's about halfway inside" potentially confusing, if I start to over think it.

'inside' almost implies the coma that isn't there, when one HEARS it, rather than reads it.

So if I said out loud that I was 'half way inside the room...' I think it might heard as 'I was half way, inside the room.' begging the question "inside the room, fine, but half way to WHERE, or what?"

I don't do anything by half measures.


Twisted Evil

But then I speak English English, primarily, with some inevitable American influences.
There are, no doubt, variations

but I still tend to think these two choices are interchangeable, at least in this context.
just like the SM7 and RE20




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Re: RE 20 or SM 7B
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2008, 04:26:51 pm »

wwittman wrote on Thu, 04 December 2008 16:13

that's a non-existent semantic difference, as far as I can see.


'how far inside the shell is the mic?'

'it's about half-way in'

seems a totally reasonable response to me.

in fact, I might find "it's about halfway inside" potentially confusing, if I start to over think it.

'inside' almost implies the coma that isn't there, when one HEARS it, rather than reads it.

So if I said out loud that I was 'half way inside the room...' I think it might heard as 'I was half way, inside the room.' begging the question "inside the room, fine, but half way to WHERE, or what?"

I don't do anything by half measures.


Twisted Evil

But then I speak English English, primarily, with some inevitable American influences.
There are, no doubt, variations

but I still tend to think these two choices are interchangeable, at least in this context.
just like the SM7 and RE20







I think, I half-way, understand, at least, 50% of, that.
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Re: RE 20 or SM 7B
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2008, 05:43:41 pm »

William,

Other than a basic disagreement as to the usefulness of the SM7 over a RE20, I agree completely!!!
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Re: RE 20 or SM 7B
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2008, 12:10:47 am »

WW-

I think he wanted a clarification regarding whether half the mic was in the drum or the entire mic was halfway between the two heads of the drum.  "Half way inside the shell" could be referring to the mic's position relative to the resonant head edge of the shell or the entire shell dimension, thus his confusion.

Beautiful work on Joan's version of Cathedrals, BTW.

tom

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Re: RE 20 or SM 7B
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2008, 07:44:24 am »

tom eaton wrote on Thu, 04 December 2008 23:10

WW-

I think he wanted a clarification regarding whether half the mic was in the drum or the entire mic was halfway between the two heads of the drum.  "Half way inside the shell" could be referring to the mic's position relative to the resonant head edge of the shell or the entire shell dimension, thus his confusion.

Beautiful work on Joan's version of Cathedrals, BTW.

tom


Thanks Tom and sorry WW, sometimes my Bahamian gets in the way of my English.
 Thanks to Mr. Manning I now have an RE20 and a SM7 to audition. Hopefully on Sunday.

Thanks.
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Re: RE 20 or SM 7B
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2008, 09:00:35 am »

C.Cash wrote on Fri, 05 December 2008 07:44

Thanks to Mr. Manning I now have an RE20 and a SM7 to audition. Hopefully on Sunday.



What? You didn't do long, extensive mic tests after last night's rehearsals?
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Re: RE 20 or SM 7B
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2008, 11:32:35 am »

I did a quick test on Saturday with the 2 mics;

SM7 I found a little harsh and sharp.

RE20  Kind of the opposite of the SM7, I found that the higher frequencies  got lost unless I was really on the mic and loud.

I am sure there will be uses for bot and I will try them on some other things before I return them. I have a Rhodes track to do on Thursday. I will try those and a new/old RE15 I got off e-bay.
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Re: RE 20 or SM 7B
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2008, 01:35:18 pm »

Check the eq settings on the back of the SM-7 to shape the tone the way you require.

RE-20s are differ-oid, so yeah - they behave different than most mics.

Personally, I use an SM-7 way more than an RE-20 - guitar & bass cabs, vocals, occassionally a kick drum.

RE-20s are good for voiceover (as is an SM-7).

I'm interested in hearing the rest of your experience(s).

Fig
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