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NY Times: "Obama Election Spurs Race Crimes Around Country"
« on: November 17, 2008, 12:12:59 PM »




November 16, 2008
Obama Election Spurs Race Crimes Around Country

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 6:20 a.m. ET

Cross burnings. Schoolchildren chanting ''Assassinate Obama.'' Black figures hung from nooses. Racial epithets scrawled on homes and cars.

Incidents around the country referring to President-elect Barack Obama are dampening the postelection glow of racial progress and harmony, highlighting the stubborn racism that remains in America.

From California to Maine, police have documented a range of alleged crimes, from vandalism and vague threats to at least one physical attack. Insults and taunts have been delivered by adults, college students and second-graders.

There have been ''hundreds'' of incidents since the election, many more than usual, said Mark Potok, director of the Intelligence Project at the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate crimes.

One was in Snellville, Ga., where Denene Millner said a boy on the school bus told her 9-year-old daughter the day after the election: ''I hope Obama gets assassinated.'' That night, someone trashed her sister-in-law's front lawn, mangled the Obama lawn signs, and left two pizza boxes filled with human feces outside the front door, Millner said.

She described her emotions as a combination of anger and fear.

''I can't say that every white person in Snellville is evil and anti-Obama and willing to desecrate my property because one or two idiots did it,'' said Millner, who is black. ''But it definitely makes you look a little different at the people who you live with, and makes you wonder what they're capable of and what they're really thinking.''

Potok, who is white, said he believes there is ''a large subset of white people in this country who feel that they are losing everything they know, that the country their forefathers built has somehow been stolen from them.''

Grant Griffin, a 46-year-old white Georgia native, expressed similar sentiments: ''I believe our nation is ruined and has been for several decades and the election of Obama is merely the culmination of the change.

''If you had real change it would involve all the members of (Obama's) church being deported,'' he said.

Change in whatever form does not come easy, and a black president is ''the most profound change in the field of race this country has experienced since the Civil War,'' said William Ferris, senior associate director of the Center for the Study of the American South at the University of North Carolina. ''It's shaking the foundations on which the country has existed for centuries.''

''Someone once said racism is like cancer,'' Ferris said. ''It's never totally wiped out, it's in remission.''

If so, America's remission lasted until the morning of Nov. 5.

The day after the vote hailed as a sign of a nation changed, black high school student Barbara Tyler of Marietta, Ga., said she heard hateful Obama comments from white students, and that teachers cut off discussion about Obama's victory.

Tyler spoke at a press conference by the Georgia chapter of the NAACP calling for a town hall meeting to address complaints from across the state about hostility and resentment. Another student, from a Covington middle school, said he was suspended for wearing an Obama shirt to school Nov. 5 after the principal told students not to wear political paraphernalia.

The student's mother, Eshe Riviears, said the principal told her: ''Whether you like it or not, we're in the South, and there are a lot of people who are not happy with this decision.''

Other incidents include:

--Four North Carolina State University students admitted writing anti-Obama comments in a tunnel designated for free speech expression, including one that said: ''Let's shoot that (N-word) in the head.'' Obama has received more threats than any other president-elect, authorities say.

--At Standish, Maine, a sign inside the Oak Hill General Store read: ''Osama Obama Shotgun Pool.'' Customers could sign up to bet $1 on a date when Obama would be killed. ''Stabbing, shooting, roadside bombs, they all count,'' the sign said. At the bottom of the marker board was written ''Let's hope someone wins.''

--Racist graffiti was found in places including New York's Long Island, where two dozen cars were spray-painted; Kilgore, Texas, where the local high school and skate park were defaced; and the Los Angeles area, where swastikas, racial slurs and ''Go Back To Africa'' were spray painted on sidewalks, houses and cars.

--Second- and third-grade students on a school bus in Rexburg, Idaho, chanted ''assassinate Obama,'' a district official said.

--University of Alabama professor Marsha L. Houston said a poster of the Obama family was ripped off her office door. A replacement poster was defaced with a death threat and a racial slur. ''It seems the election brought the racist rats out of the woodwork,'' Houston said.

--Black figures were hanged by nooses from trees on Mount Desert Island, Maine, the Bangor Daily News reported. The president of Baylor University in Waco, Texas said a rope found hanging from a campus tree was apparently an abandoned swing and not a noose.

--Crosses were burned in yards of Obama supporters in Hardwick, N.J., and Apolacan Township, Pa.

--A black teenager in New York City said he was attacked with a bat on election night by four white men who shouted 'Obama.'

--In the Pittsburgh suburb of Forest Hills, a black man said he found a note with a racial slur on his car windshield, saying ''now that you voted for Obama, just watch out for your house.''

Emotions are often raw after a hard-fought political campaign, but now those on the losing side have an easy target for their anger.

''The principle is very simple,'' said BJ Gallagher, a sociologist and co-author of the diversity book ''A Peacock in the Land of Penguins.'' ''If I can't hurt the person I'm angry at, then I'll vent my anger on a substitute, i.e., someone of the same race.''

''We saw the same thing happen after the 9-11 attacks, as a wave of anti-Muslim violence swept the country. We saw it happen after the Rodney King verdict, when Los Angeles blacks erupted in rage at the injustice perpetrated by 'the white man.'''

''It's as stupid and ineffectual as kicking your dog when you've had a bad day at the office,'' Gallagher said. ''But it happens a lot.''

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Associated Press writers Errin Haines, Jerry Harkavy, Jay Reeves, Johnny Clark and researcher Rhonda Shafner contributed to this report.


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Re: NY Times: "Obama Election Spurs Race Crimes Around Country"
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2008, 09:14:18 PM »

zmix wrote on Mon, 17 November 2008 17:12


at least one physical attack.    

Wow. ONE physical attack. Plus a handful of minor vandalism incidents and people SAYING MEAN THINGS.

An epidemic of hate crimes, this is not. Meanwhile, numerous violent black-on-white hate crimes occur every year and are not reported by the media. The victims' names are unknown to most people, while black victims of hate crimes are famous.

A pattern I have noticed in the NYT is a hilariously overblown headline, accompanied by a story that doesn't support the headline.

Now, if Obama were an ignorant, uncultured, walking stereotype with baggy pants and prison tattoos, or an African dictator type, people might be a little more riled up. But the fact is, people don't really think of Obama as "black" and therefore he doesn't trigger their prejudices.

Now if Fiddy Cent were elected President, that would be REAL progress.  Rolling Eyes
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Re: NY Times: "Obama Election Spurs Race Crimes Around Country"
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2008, 09:24:28 PM »

just a messenger wrote on Mon, 17 November 2008 21:14

zmix wrote on Mon, 17 November 2008 17:12


at least one physical attack.    


But the fact is, people don't really think of Obama as "black" and therefore he doesn't trigger their prejudices.




My dentist tells me that a guy came into his office last week and asked him if "he voted for the nigger"

Dentist throws the guy out and tells him to find another dentist.

I guess that guy didn't "really think of Obama as black".
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Re: NY Times: "Obama Election Spurs Race Crimes Around Country"
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2008, 09:37:06 PM »

Sometimes you just have to become a gum control advocate.
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2008, 09:42:03 PM »

I heared that Obama wants to take our gums away.



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Re: NY Times: "Obama Election Spurs Race Crimes Around Country"
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2008, 09:51:32 PM »

just a messenger wrote on Mon, 17 November 2008 21:14

zmix wrote on Mon, 17 November 2008 17:12


at least one physical attack.    

Wow. ONE physical attack. Plus a handful of minor vandalism incidents and people SAYING MEAN THINGS.

An epidemic of hate crimes, this is not. Meanwhile, numerous violent black-on-white hate crimes occur every year and are not reported by the media. The victims' names are unknown to most people, while black victims of hate crimes are famous.

A pattern I have noticed in the NYT is a hilariously overblown headline, accompanied by a story that doesn't support the headline.

Now, if Obama were an ignorant, uncultured, walking stereotype with baggy pants and prison tattoos, or an African dictator type, people might be a little more riled up. But the fact is, people don't really think of Obama as "black" and therefore he doesn't trigger their prejudices.

Now if Fiddy Cent were elected President, that would be REAL progress.  Rolling Eyes



Boy, you are one sick puppy. Quite an ugly person..

I do in fact think of Barack Obama as Black. He is an African American. His Mother was white. But when we see Barack walking down the street, we observe that he is a black man. So I guess I don't get what you are saying. {I'm quite sure that you don't either.}-- The fact the he and many many other African Americans have now been able to make it too high level jobs of all types is wonderful news for our Country, and the rest of the world.. You seem to be missing the fact that these displays of racism are proof that we have much work left to do. You, of course, are not helpful at all on this front. You could not care less. Right?

Look what happened in my little town.

http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2008/11/gun_shops_reacts_ to_obamas_ele.php

These people can kiss my ass. What about all the things that don't get reported? You are walking a fine line here. I could swear you are defending these people..

I don't like you.. No kidding. I really don't.. I see closed minded people like you, who are not so bright by the way, as the problem. You, are part of the problem sir. Congratulations.

Ivan................
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Re: NY Times: "Obama Election Spurs Race Crimes Around Country"
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2008, 10:41:18 PM »

John Ivan wrote on Mon, 17 November 2008 18:51

I don't like you.. No kidding. I really don't.. I see closed minded people like you, who are not so bright by the way, as the problem. You, are part of the problem sir. Congratulations.

Ivan................

You remember who this is, right? You already don't like him. Maybe no one does.

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Re: NY Times: "Obama Election Spurs Race Crimes Around Country"
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2008, 10:58:37 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2008, 11:05:38 PM »

mgod wrote on Mon, 17 November 2008 22:41

John Ivan wrote on Mon, 17 November 2008 18:51

I don't like you.. No kidding. I really don't.. I see closed minded people like you, who are not so bright by the way, as the problem. You, are part of the problem sir. Congratulations.

Ivan................

You remember who this is, right? You already don't like him. Maybe no one does.

DS


HA!! Yeah, I remember. I think he likes it. He just wants to get a rise out of us. I'm happy to give him what he wants. I've got lots more boxes to fill. This time, I'm only moving 20 miles away.. But it's still a pain in the arse!! I have some time on my hands, alone in this house.. In fact, I'm taking a "vacation" of sorts. This was prescribed by my government issue, Socialist "counselor", along with some "confinement Loaf".. {just kidding, I have neither.} It really was recommended though, by someone I trust. "Dude, you need a break!"

 Just some time off to get moved in and set up my rig for the first time in years. Also, we are setting up Home School for my crazy 11 year old. He is now insisting he wants to "rawk" Good grief. The poor punk. I keep tellin' him, he wont listen, so I better make damn sure he gets good at it. I guess.

As for "just a messenger", well, he can't help that his brain has turned to apple sauce. Can he?

Ivan............
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Re: NY Times: "Obama Election Spurs Race Crimes Around Country"
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2008, 07:43:20 AM »

What an ugly thread.

And did I dream this, or are we required to post our real names?

On the other hand, Let me tell you how I ended a visit with my parents yesterday.

My father, 77, is dying of lung cancer, so as often as possible I drive to South Joja to spend time with him. Yesterday afternoon he was very excited because his friend "JD" a 93 year old black man (GASP!) was coming to see him. JD sang a hymn and then held my fathers hand and prayed with him. After offering additional words of comfort and encouragement, JD left, promising to return Wednesday with his wife.

This is the image I'm carrying with me today, not the garbage I just finished reading in the beginning of this thread.

There will always be small minded, ignorant and hateful people in this world, but when you put them under a lens they appear to be so much bigger than they really are.
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Re: NY Times: "Obama Election Spurs Race Crimes Around Country"
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2008, 08:43:31 AM »

Bill_Urick wrote on Tue, 18 November 2008 06:43

What an ugly thread.

And did I dream this, or are we required to post our real names?


To date we've not required folks to use their real names for posting in the Saloon, though I'm now considering it.

That being said, judging by this person's profile they are nothing more than a troll - something I have very little time or patience in dealing with.

Carry on, don't feed the trolls!
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Re: NY Times: "Obama Election Spurs Race Crimes Around Country"
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2008, 10:09:28 AM »

just a messenger wrote on Mon, 17 November 2008 21:14

zmix wrote on Mon, 17 November 2008 17:12


at least one physical attack.    


A pattern I have noticed in the NYT is a hilariously overblown headline, accompanied by a story that doesn't support the headline.



Not just NYT.  That is how it works for ALL newspapers.  Journalism 101.  Use a sensational headline to grab the readers interest.
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2008, 05:12:04 PM »

Bill_Urick wrote on Tue, 18 November 2008 07:43

What an ugly thread.

And did I dream this, or are we required to post our real names?

On the other hand, Let me tell you how I ended a visit with my parents yesterday.

My father, 77, is dying of lung cancer, so as often as possible I drive to South Joja to spend time with him. Yesterday afternoon he was very excited because his friend "JD" a 93 year old black man (GASP!) was coming to see him. JD sang a hymn and then held my fathers hand and prayed with him. After offering additional words of comfort and encouragement, JD left, promising to return Wednesday with his wife.

This is the image I'm carrying with me today, not the garbage I just finished reading in the beginning of this thread.

There will always be small minded, ignorant and hateful people in this world, but when you put them under a lens they appear to be so much bigger than they really are.




So sorry Bill. I know your Dad found comfort in both yours and JDs' visits and prayers.Singing is so very good for the soul. It's good your Pop has people who love him.

The best from my Family to yours.

Ivan....................
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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2008, 01:05:41 AM »

My point is that this was a remarkably NON-violent election, something that is a rarity in almost any other country. But the New York Times is trying to portray it otherwise, just as they did with a pre-election story about how blacks were worried about their votes not being counted, which is hilarious considering the massive and blatant vote fraud that Democrats perpetrate in black neighborhoods. The New York Times inadvertently let the truth slip out by mentioning that police officers and election observers were completely banned from the polls in NYC's black neighborhoods, because it would have been "intimidating."

The only time a black person should worry about his vote not being counted is if he's a Republican.

And I for one don't think of Obama as "black." He's a member of the political aristocracy and has more in common culturally with George Bush than with anyone who actually works for a living.
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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2008, 01:21:24 AM »

just a messenger wrote on Tue, 18 November 2008 22:05

The only time a black person should worry about his vote not being counted is if he's a Republican.

And I for one don't think of Obama as "black." He's a member of the political aristocracy and has more in common culturally with George Bush than with anyone who actually works for a living.

Is this guy still here?

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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2008, 01:25:08 AM »

just a messenger wrote on Wed, 19 November 2008 01:05

My point is that this was a remarkably NON-violent election, something that is a rarity in almost any other country. But the New York Times is trying to portray it otherwise, just as they did with a pre-election story about how blacks were worried about their votes not being counted, which is hilarious considering the massive and blatant vote fraud that Democrats perpetrate in black neighborhoods. The New York Times inadvertently let the truth slip out by mentioning that police officers and election observers were completely banned from the polls in NYC's black neighborhoods, because it would have been "intimidating."

The only time a black person should worry about his vote not being counted is if he's a Republican.

And I for one don't think of Obama as "black." He's a member of the political aristocracy and has more in common culturally with George Bush than with anyone who actually works for a living.



Hey, ya know, I don't mean to be so "hard".. I don't.. I don't really know THAT much about ya.. But yer duuummer than a box of nails..

I mean, how does all this strange stuff pop into your head? Tight shoes can be bad for blood flow, I've heard. Maybe all this drumming has shaken the one brain cell you got for Christmas loose? I don't know. But there is something very wrong with you young lady!

"I for one don't think of Obama as Black" Yeah, sure ya don't.. SUUUURRRRE ya don't..

Numb scull.

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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2008, 07:38:49 AM »

John Ivan wrote on Tue, 18 November 2008 23:25



"I for one don't think of Obama as Black" Yeah, sure ya don't.. SUUUURRRRE ya don't..

Ivan...........................



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