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Hallams

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Re: The Beginning of the End
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2008, 08:52:43 AM »

sui-city wrote on Wed, 08 October 2008 23:47

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n137/The_Werewolf_Prophet/finally.jpg


Ya right......

She (and her mates) just want a piece of the world ....and a rather large piece at that!
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Re: The Beginning of the End
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2008, 09:22:20 AM »

mgod wrote on Tue, 07 October 2008 21:24

Right on schedule:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XgkeTanCGI

Naomi Wolf is calling on DAs to arrest the President and says there has already been a military coup.

The clip has had 100,000 views, and they are directing people to myamericaproject.org. Naomi says there will be a user's guide to the Bill of Rights and the Constitution coming soon to myamericaproject.org.

DS


Look, I hate to be such an audio geek about this, but I wish someone had turned off or adjusted the expander / gate on her mic, or moved the mic closer... the pounding dynamic assault makes her sound a bit nuts...  I have a headache after only 15 minutes. EVery WOrd sOUnds LIke it is being HAmmered out or mumbled.....

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Re: The Beginning of the End
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2008, 10:49:25 AM »

Hallams wrote on Wed, 08 October 2008 14:52


Ya right......

She (and her mates) just want a piece of the world ....and a rather large piece at that!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRnqHXHwTCs
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Re: The Beginning of the End
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2008, 03:02:42 PM »

zmix wrote on Wed, 08 October 2008 09:22

mgod wrote on Tue, 07 October 2008 21:24

Right on schedule:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XgkeTanCGI

Naomi Wolf is calling on DAs to arrest the President and says there has already been a military coup.

The clip has had 100,000 views, and they are directing people to myamericaproject.org. Naomi says there will be a user's guide to the Bill of Rights and the Constitution coming soon to myamericaproject.org.

DS


Look, I hate to be such an audio geek about this, but I wish someone had turned off or adjusted the expander / gate on her mic, or moved the mic closer... the pounding dynamic assault makes her sound a bit nuts...  I have a headache after only 15 minutes. EVery WOrd sOUnds LIke it is being HAmmered out or mumbled.....




Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing

I'm so glad you mentioned this! It drove me nuts too. I think who ever was working the console for program was just hitting the Master chain to hard {Turn her damn fader down!}. It could have been an individual insert but I doubt it. In any case, it did hurt to listen to..

Ivan...............
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Re: The Beginning of the End
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2008, 03:43:32 PM »

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/

Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1

3rd Infantry's 1st BCT trains for a new dwell-time mission. Helping 'people at home' may become a permanent part of the active Army

By Gina Cavallaro - Staff writer
Posted: Monday Sep 8, 2008

The 3rd Infantry Division's 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys.

Now they're training for the same mission - with a twist - at home.

Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.

It is not the first time an active-duty unit has been tapped to help at home. In August 2005, for example, when Hurricane Katrina unleashed hell in Mississippi and Louisiana, several active-duty units were pulled from various posts and mobilized to those areas.

But this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.

After 1st BCT finishes its dwell-time mission, expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one.

"Right now, the response force requirement will be an enduring mission. How the [Defense Department] chooses to source that and whether or not they continue to assign them to NorthCom, that could change in the future," said Army Col. Louis Vogler, chief of NorthCom future operations. "Now, the plan is to assign a force every year."

The command is at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, Colo., but the soldiers with 1st BCT, who returned in April after 15 months in Iraq, will operate out of their home post at Fort Stewart, Ga., where they'll be able to go to school, spend time with their families and train for their new homeland mission as well as the counterinsurgency mission in the war zones.

Stop-loss will not be in effect, so soldiers will be able to leave the Army or move to new assignments during the mission, and the operational tempo will be variable.

Don't look for any extra time off, though. The at-home mission does not take the place of scheduled combat-zone deployments and will take place during the so-called dwell time a unit gets to reset and regenerate after a deployment.

The 1st of the 3rd is still scheduled to deploy to either Iraq or Afghanistan in early 2010, which means the soldiers will have been home a minimum of 20 months by the time they ship out.

In the meantime, they'll learn new skills, use some of the ones they acquired in the war zone and more than likely will not be shot at while doing any of it.

They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.

Training for homeland scenarios has already begun at Fort Stewart and includes specialty tasks such as knowing how to use the "jaws of life" to extract a person from a mangled vehicle; extra medical training for a CBRNE incident; and working with U.S. Forestry Service experts on how to go in with chainsaws and cut and clear trees to clear a road or area.

The 1st BCT's soldiers also will learn how to use "the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded," 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.

"It's a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they're fielding. They've been using pieces of it in Iraq, but this is the first time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded, and because of this mission we're undertaking we were the first to get it."

The package includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block; spike strips for slowing, stopping or controlling traffic; shields and batons; and, beanbag bullets.

"I was the first guy in the brigade to get Tasered," said Cloutier, describing the experience as "your worst muscle cramp ever - times 10 throughout your whole body.

"I'm not a small guy, I weigh 230 pounds ... it put me on my knees in seconds."

The brigade will not change its name, but the force will be known for the next year as a CBRNE Consequence Management Response Force, or CCMRF (pronounced "sea-smurf").

"I can't think of a more noble mission than this," said Cloutier, who took command in July. "We've been all over the world during this time of conflict, but now our mission is to take care of citizens at home ... anddepending on where an event occurred, you're going home to take care of your home town, your loved ones."

While soldiers' combat training is applicable, he said, some nuances don't apply.

"If we go in, we're going in to help American citizens on American soil, to save lives, provide critical life support, help clear debris, restore  normalcy and support whatever local agencies need us to do, so it's kind of a different role," said Cloutier, who, as the division operations officer on the last rotation, learned of the homeland mission a few months ago while they were still in Iraq.

Some brigade elements will be on call around the clock, during which time they'll do their regular marksmanship, gunnery and other deployment training. That's because the unit will continue to train and reset for the next deployment, even as it serves in its CCMRF mission.

Should personnel be needed at an earthquake in California, for example, all or part of the brigade could be scrambled there, depending on the extent of the need and the specialties involved.

Other branches included

The active Army's new dwell-time mission is part of a NorthCom and DOD response package.

Active-duty soldiers will be part of a force that includes elements from other military branches and dedicated National Guard Weapons of Mass Destruction-Civil Support Teams.

A final mission rehearsal exercise is scheduled for mid-September at Fort Stewart and will be run by Joint Task Force Civil Support, a unit based out of Fort Monroe, Va., that will coordinate and evaluate the interservice event.

In addition to 1st BCT, other Army units will take part in the two-week training exercise, including elements of the 1st Medical Brigade out of Fort Hood, Texas, and the 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade from Fort Bragg, N.C.

There also will be Air Force engineer and medical units, the Marine Corps Chemical, Biological Initial Reaction Force, a Navy weather team and members of the Defense Logistics Agency and the Defense Threat Reduction Agency.

One of the things Vogler said they'll be looking at is communications capabilities between the services.

"It is a concern, and we're trying to check that and one of the ways we do that is by having these sorts of exercises. Leading up to this, we are going to rehearse and set up some of the communications systems to make sure we have interoperability," he said.

"I don't know what America's overall plan is - I just know that 24 hours a day, seven day a week, there are soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines that are standing by to come and help if they're called," Cloutier said. "It makes me feel good as an American to know that my country has dedicated a force to come in and help the people at home."

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Re: The Beginning of the End
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2008, 03:47:38 PM »

On the plus side, it looks like we're finished invading OTHER countries...

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Re: The Beginning of the End
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2008, 08:01:36 PM »


http://www.alternet.org/rights/102220/is_posse_comitatus_dea d/

http://www.alternet.org/rights/101958/thousands_of_troops_ar e_deployed_on_u.s._streets_ready_to_carry_out_%22crowd_contr ol%22/

I started reading the other Naomi's (Naomi Klein) "The Shock Doctrine" a few days ago.  Wow, what an important book.  Required reading for anyone who wants some understanding of how we got here.

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Re: The Beginning of the End
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2008, 09:57:26 PM »

Daddy and Momma bush have got to be eating mush and watching GSN with the mistaken notion that it is a current "Match Game" episode by now.

Unless the president can declare a state of military emergency without congressional approval, I think we are fine.
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Re: The Beginning of the End
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2008, 11:17:24 PM »

I ate ated icrophones
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Re: The Beginning of the End
« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2008, 12:59:01 AM »

danickstr wrote on Thu, 09 October 2008 18:57

Unless the president can declare a state of military emergency without congressional approval, I think we are fine.

He can.

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Re: The Beginning of the End
« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2008, 01:38:21 AM »

"Mandrake, that's all I've been told. It just came in on the Red Phone. My orders are for this base to be sealed tight, and that's what I mean to do: seal it tight. Now, I want you to transmit plan R, R for Robert, to the wing. Plan R for Robert."
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Re: The Beginning of the End
« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2008, 10:07:59 AM »

I always get nervous when I see these conspiracy websites, so I just don't go to them.

Maybe C and R stands for capitulation and recovery.  Which the market may be doing today.

It's a helluva day on the floor, of the NYSE.
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