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Jonah A. Kort

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To bottom mic or to not
« on: September 26, 2008, 02:39:54 am »

How many of you all use a bottom mic on the snare?  I haven't done

it in a while, but I'm thinking about put it up just in case from

now on.
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NelsonL

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Re: To bottom mic or to not
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2008, 03:52:38 am »

I usually prefer additional room mics to a bottom snare, but we only have so many inputs where I'm used to working. I really need the sound of the snare exciting the room, and you can't get that from a sample or a bottom mic per se.

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Re: To bottom mic or to not
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2008, 05:56:31 am »

When mixing I find that a little of the bottom mic helps a lot to add a better (mid-)high presence to the snare. More so than eqing the top mic.
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Re: To bottom mic or to not
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2008, 10:37:30 am »

I like to put one up almost all of the time.

Sometimes I don't use the bottom mic for crispiness at all, but more to beef up the snare sound.

Throw on judiciously tuned LPF and you can really bring out the body of the drum without the crispy bits.

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Ryan Slowey

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Re: To bottom mic or to not
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2008, 12:29:10 pm »

I usually mic the bottom if I have enough channels. Most times I sum them together before AD, so that it records to only one channel. I like to commit to stuff early on.
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Re: To bottom mic or to not
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2008, 01:50:18 pm »

I like to put an omni between the bottom of the snare and the beater of the kick...I usually have to move it a few times to get the correct balance.

I find that if I need more snap from the snare I probably need more slap from the kick drum as well.
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Re: To bottom mic or to not
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2008, 02:02:14 pm »



I always take a bottom mic, and use it in the mix at least 99% of the time.

Really handy for bringing out ghost notes / drags etc as well as all the reasons mentioned above.

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Re: To bottom mic or to not
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2008, 02:21:17 pm »

i use to hate bottom snares.  now i'm pissed if i don't get one.

very useful for maintaining that "open" snare sound.
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Jonah A. Kort

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Re: To bottom mic or to not
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2008, 04:26:32 pm »

NelsonL wrote on Fri, 26 September 2008 02:52

I usually prefer additional room mics to a bottom snare, but we only have so many inputs where I'm used to working. I really need the sound of the snare exciting the room, and you can't get that from a sample or a bottom mic per se.





I only have some many microphones.  I only have two LDCs and I

had two SDCs but one of them decided to stop work.  And I'm

starting to use the one SDC (sm81) on the snare top.  It sounds

more better than an sm57.  I wonder if it has to do with the

large number hehe. I do however duplicate the overheads in the

Protools and hit that with a heavier handed compression to

emulate room mics.  I also record in a basement so I take the

sounds I can get.
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Re: To bottom mic or to not
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2008, 05:03:50 pm »

i always track with one now.  however, if i were in a room where i didn't have enough inputs, i guess i could live without it..  i have done a ton of records with no bottom snare mic.

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Re: To bottom mic or to not
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2008, 05:13:35 pm »

Hell, why even mic the snare at all?

Simplify, simplify.


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Re: To bottom mic or to not
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2008, 05:40:57 pm »

Mono LDC in front of the drums, close though, like at the front of

the kick a couple feet, mic on the kick, and mic on the floor tom

so it doesn't lost (or is that too complex) oh and a good drummer.  

That's how you get a good snare drum sound, like TNT. hehe
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Re: To bottom mic or to not
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2008, 06:41:40 pm »

Jonah A. Kort wrote on Fri, 26 September 2008 14:40

Mono LDC in front of the drums, close though, like at the front of

the kick a couple feet, mic on the kick, and mic on the floor tom

so it doesn't lost (or is that too complex) oh and a good drummer.  

That's how you get a good snare drum sound, like TNT. hehe


thats what im talkin about! one mic for the band, one for the main vocal... makes mixing way easier with only 2 tracks to work with. Wink

hahaha

peace

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Re: To bottom mic or to not
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2008, 07:45:42 pm »

I never used to do it until the last few projects and I don't think I could go without it now.  Even if you end up not needing it on a song or 2, it's better to have it than not.
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Re: To bottom mic or to not
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2008, 10:57:05 pm »

Or just grow a pair and bus them together on input. Twisted Evil  

But really.... not kidding try it.

Same with kick in/kick out.
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