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PRobb

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Re: How the Democrats Caused the Current Financial Crisis
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2008, 08:53:40 PM »

Karl Rove moving from the Bush Administration to Faux "News" was just a transfer within the same company.

My problem with Faux is their "Fair And Balanced" slogan. If their slogan was "America's Conservative Choice For News" I'd have no problem with them.
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Re: How the Democrats Caused the Current Financial Crisis
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2008, 08:59:12 PM »

"I don't know what is."

very deep...
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Re: How the Democrats Caused the Current Financial Crisis
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2008, 09:36:33 PM »

RPhilbeck wrote on Wed, 24 September 2008 20:11

Any news outlet that doesn't pander to the liberal ideal can't be a legitimate source of information.   Rolling Eyes
if critical thinking is a liberal ideal, then i guess so.

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Re: How the Democrats Caused the Current Financial Crisis
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2008, 09:50:52 PM »

PRobb wrote on Wed, 24 September 2008 20:53

Karl Rove moving from the Bush Administration to Faux "News" was just a transfer within the same company.

My problem with Faux is their "Fair And Balanced" slogan. If their slogan was "America's Conservative Choice For News" I'd have no problem with them.


But Fox is NOT a conservative news outlet.  Fox is an ideological outlet in the same manner as Rush Limbaugh and his ilk.  

It's entertainment.
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Re: How the Democrats Caused the Current Financial Crisis
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2008, 09:52:37 PM »

arlenthompson wrote on Wed, 24 September 2008 21:50

PRobb wrote on Wed, 24 September 2008 20:53

Karl Rove moving from the Bush Administration to Faux "News" was just a transfer within the same company.

My problem with Faux is their "Fair And Balanced" slogan. If their slogan was "America's Conservative Choice For News" I'd have no problem with them.


But Fox is NOT a conservative news outlet.  Fox is an ideological outlet in the same manner as Rush Limbaugh and his ilk.  

It's entertainment.



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Re: How the Democrats Caused the Current Financial Crisis
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2008, 10:13:03 PM »

Jay Kadis wrote on Wed, 24 September 2008 20:28

Commercial "news" must pander to stay alive, liberal or conservative.  There are news sources independent of corporate influence but you have to seek them out and most people are far too lazy to acquire their knowledge the hard way. If you don't get foreign news sources as well you are not getting the entire picture, either.


Jay, why do you keep saying stuff I agree with?
It must be another vile socialist plot.
Or you guys are just coming around to my way of thinking.
Or...I just can't face the alternative.
Must,  further,  self-evaluate...
AHHHHHGGGHHH!
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Re: How the Democrats Caused the Current Financial Crisis
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2008, 10:42:02 PM »

See my other statement in the other thread of "credit overextensions" with high interest loans handed out to nearly any deadbeat or those that weren't in the position of affording it. This isn't a surprise to me or a few clued in others, and people are still seeing this as a revelation and i'm like, "where have you been?". I was going on about this years ago, but people probably thought it was ramblings from the town crazy running around outside the castle.

Creditors have been handing out loans like they've been free, for years now. When someone goes bankrupt or decides that they don't want to pay, sure you can blackball their credit rating, but they don't give a shit about that anyways. There's no real penalty for someone that decides that they don't want to pay....you can make all the threats you want, but if they don't pay, we all end up paying for that through taxes.

To reiterate: "The Growth Illusion". I hate to sound like a broken record, but everyone here simply needs to read that book. It outlines tons of other things in there and is mandatory reading in this day and age.
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Re: How the Democrats Caused the Current Financial Crisis
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2008, 10:57:43 PM »

cerberus wrote on Wed, 24 September 2008 18:36

RPhilbeck wrote on Wed, 24 September 2008 20:11

Any news outlet that doesn't pander to the liberal ideal can't be a legitimate source of information.   Rolling Eyes
if critical thinking is a liberal ideal, then i guess so.

jeff dinces

In fact critical thinking is part of the definition of the liberal ideal. The middle-brow undereducated assholes of this country, led like sheep to the slaughter by the Coughlins and Nixons and Roves and Reeds and Limbaughs and O'Reillys, steeped in their lily-white resentment of changing times, have denigrated a word denoting in fact quite a high human ideal. So, as always, Mr. Philbeck hoists himself on his own argument, lacking critical thinking and a liberal ideal. In other places and times, these thugs have been known as Good Germans.

liberal, adjective, noun.
adj.   1a. generous; having or giving freely.
   Ex. a liberal donation. A liberal giver gives much. The bearers ... are persons to whom you cannot be too liberal (Dickens). Wisely liberal of his money for comfort and pleasure (John Ruskin).
   (SYN) bountiful.
   b. plentiful; abundant.
   Ex. We put in a liberal supply of fuel for the winter.
   (SYN) ample, large.
   2a. tolerant; not narrow in one's ideas and views; broad-minded.
   Ex. a liberal thinker, liberal theology.
   b. not strict; not rigorous.
   Ex. a liberal interpretation of a rule.
   3. favoring progress and reforms.
   Ex. a liberal political program.
   4. giving the general thought; not a word-for-word rendering; broad and sympathetic as opposed to literal and pedantic.
   Ex. a liberal translation.
   5. of or having to do with the liberal arts or a liberal education.
   6. (Obsolete.)
   a. free from restraint; free in speech or action.
   b. licentious.
noun   a person favorable to progress and reforms.

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