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Re: The Apogee Converter thread. 16x unit care and feeding.
« Reply #45 on: April 12, 2009, 05:58:22 PM »

rankus wrote on Fri, 06 March 2009 18:14

compasspnt wrote on Fri, 06 March 2009 11:11


Now I just need some of those silly metric screws!



Apogee sent me some by mail at no cost when I asked them "what was up with that"  CALL: 310 584-9394 - Jay is a nice guy in support...



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Re: The Apogee Converter thread. 16x unit care and feeding.
« Reply #46 on: April 12, 2009, 10:25:24 PM »

Thank YOU!  I don't know how I missed that.  Did you do your power switch mod?

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Re: The Apogee Converter thread. 16x unit care and feeding.
« Reply #47 on: April 12, 2009, 11:49:40 PM »

Waiting to get the metric screws to do it, and kill several birds with one stone.
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Re: The Apogee Converter thread. 16x unit care and feeding.
« Reply #48 on: April 13, 2009, 10:59:48 AM »

After reading this thread and watching issues with a Prism dream system I'm wondering if there is ever gonna be a good mobile system for me that will work in the studio as well.

Tom,

I guess MOTU Cuemix is hard to beat isn't it? You'd think Apogee could but...
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Re: The Apogee Converter thread. 16x unit care and feeding.
« Reply #49 on: April 13, 2009, 02:46:28 PM »



Hey Kevin (Fibes) you may want to call Jay at Apogee, at the support number above.  He does installations of Apogee systems and may have some suggestions for you.  He's the one that got me onto the RME interface as he had done a few installs with that setup.  He may have something in mind for portable systems too.

 
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Re: The Apogee Converter thread. 16x unit care and feeding.
« Reply #50 on: April 15, 2009, 02:10:47 AM »

Fibes wrote on Mon, 13 April 2009 08:59

After reading this thread and watching issues with a Prism dream system I'm wondering if there is ever gonna be a good mobile system for me that will work in the studio as well.

Tom,

I guess MOTU Cuemix is hard to beat isn't it? You'd think Apogee could but...


For a good mobile system, Metric Halo products are hard to beat.  There is a reason Apogee copied them.
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Re: The Apogee Converter thread. 16x unit care and feeding.
« Reply #51 on: April 15, 2009, 08:45:04 AM »

If Apogee wanted to copy Metric Halo there would be a mixer that was usable in one of their products. And great processing.

If you already own 16x units I don't know what the best mobile interfacing option is.

And yes, the MOTU cuemix software with the 424 is a great thing, but the key to it is the mixer built onto the PCI card... and that's the thing that Apogee doesn't do.

I don't think most people realize that the MOTU card has a separate stereo mixer for every output pair containting every available input.  It's a huge matrix mixer in a very tidy little package.  It's amazing how UN-daunting my 28 in x 44 out cue setup is.

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Re: The Apogee Converter thread. 16x unit care and feeding.
« Reply #52 on: April 15, 2009, 11:30:42 AM »

I know someone who was beta testing the new Metric Halo rig that has yet to be released. It will be killer once they get it flying but he even dropped it for a Prism system that I've witnessed be as persnickety as they come.

Tom, I agree the MOTU Cuemix system rocks although the cascading of 8 channel units (my 3x896 HD remote rig) via aes because of firewire limitations is a pain. The Prism has the same limitation although they insist it works like a 424 card.

I'll keep saving money and hopefully Apogee will be ready for prime time by the time I get the scratch.
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Re: The Apogee Converter thread. 16x unit care and feeding.
« Reply #53 on: April 21, 2009, 08:26:36 PM »

I just got an e-mail from Lucas at Apogee:

"Just an update on the status of the switches. We located a more heat resistant version and they are on order. So probably somewhere next week we'll have them. I'll let you know when they're in and we can set you up for a replacement."

In case anybody wants this route, now you know they have dealt with the issue.  I think the clue was that the Rosettas use the same switch without problem, but do not get nearly as hot as the ADA16Xs, so heat resistance was the obvious answer.

Goddamn those units get hot!  Some op amps are being run class A, as I learned, and that makes it even hotter.
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Re: The Apogee Converter thread. 16x unit care and feeding.
« Reply #54 on: April 21, 2009, 08:53:38 PM »

I'm sure they'll be notifying all registered owners.  Ha ha ha.

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Re: The Apogee Converter thread. 16x unit care and feeding.
« Reply #55 on: April 22, 2009, 07:16:07 PM »

Oh, yeah!  A recall!
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Re: The Apogee Converter thread. 16x unit care and feeding.
« Reply #56 on: April 28, 2009, 11:27:48 AM »

J.J. Blair wrote on Tue, 21 April 2009 20:26

I just got an e-mail from Lucas at Apogee:

"Just an update on the status of the switches. We located a more heat resistant version and they are on order. So probably somewhere next week we'll have them. I'll let you know when they're in and we can set you up for a replacement."

Goddamn those units get hot!  Some op amps are being run class A, as I learned, and that makes it even hotter.



Cool, (pun intended) Smile

I just sent my AD16-X back to Apogee because the damn thing went bonkers and lost it's mind (EPROM) when I powered it up with that flaky switch.

Hopefully they'll put one of those new improved ones in there and all will be right again.

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Re: The Apogee Converter thread. 16x unit care and feeding.
« Reply #57 on: April 29, 2009, 12:30:55 PM »

i love the duet... did i say that already?  according to apogee, it specs
as well or better than a rosetta and they claim it is much better
sounding than a mini-me.  (due to it's simplicity and because
it contains "newer generation technology"). i got rid of the
breakout cable for obvious reasons. a superb value
assuming one only needs 2 outputs. portable too.
downsides: duet/ensembe will never work with
windows os. firewire (400) can be dodgy if
one is reliant on fw hard drives.
but mostly for me, it's been
smooth running.

the sound is  somewhat forward  in the midrange (the conventional wisdom),
but one will hear loads of important details that no other 500.
converter/interface will reproduce. of course all of the
highest end gear is -colored- it's in the best gear
that one can really notice... this device has
a "silky character" to me. i'm very used to
it by now. i can count on my duet.

oh, and that knob is -not- a potentiometer!

jeff dinces

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Re: The Apogee Converter thread. 16x unit care and feeding.
« Reply #58 on: April 30, 2009, 12:46:04 PM »

tom eaton wrote on Wed, 15 April 2009 06:45

If Apogee wanted to copy Metric Halo there would be a mixer that was usable in one of their products. And great processing.


I didn't say they did a good job copying it.  Wink
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Re: The Apogee Converter thread. 16x unit care and feeding.
« Reply #59 on: May 04, 2009, 08:52:35 AM »

Just because it needs saying..

They are still a good option for conversion.

I had the switch failure  and we wired them with the jumper "always on"

Problem done  so in effect they come with a surprise and a task but they do not repeatedly halt any party-  

Of course it is unpleastant  but I want to state that it is still a fine option.  xj
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