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danickstr

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Re: T-USA U47M (Modified by J.J. Blair)
« Reply #45 on: October 24, 2008, 06:18:37 pm »

kats wrote on Fri, 24 October 2008 16:09

danickstr wrote on Fri, 24 October 2008 02:08

We know exactly what a fantastic U47 sounds like in the most important context of all...on the music we love that it was used to record.

But other than that, I think your post is very relevant.


OTOH, without knowing the processing involved on those vocal tracks, it would be difficult to determine what the mic alone should or did sound like raw.




This is a great purist point.  Not sure what it has to do with making music, but it is a great purist point.
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Re: T-USA U47M (Modified by J.J. Blair)
« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2008, 06:29:35 pm »

Well this whole thread has nothing to do with making music - it has been about the sonic characteristics & components of the u47 and how copies fare against it. No argument from me that you don't need a 47 to make music.
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Re: T-USA U47M (Modified by J.J. Blair)
« Reply #47 on: October 24, 2008, 09:13:15 pm »

Out of curiosity, if it sounds exactly like a U47 to experienced ears (in a double blind, to prevent visual tainting), is it a U47?  I guess that becomes the real question.

Sounds like many folks feel they got it down.
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Re: T-USA U47M (Modified by J.J. Blair)
« Reply #48 on: October 28, 2008, 01:00:34 pm »

I want to point out that any U47 with an original M7 does not sound as a U47 should sound.  Those capsules are HIGHLY unstable, and any 30 to 50 year old M7 is not going to have the response that it was intended to.  Some of them ripen into a beautiful sound capsule, and some wind up shitty, but they do not sound as intended.  They change drastically, and I can't emphasize that more strongly.  

I'm not sold on any current production M7s, at the moment.  I have a Berlin M7 here that was reskinnned by MTG, and I'm completely underwhelmed.  

I think the only way to tell what a U47 SHOULD sound like is with a K47.  But that's just my opinion.  
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Re: T-USA U47M (Modified by J.J. Blair)
« Reply #49 on: October 28, 2008, 08:18:34 pm »

Do you think an original M7 would get brighter as the PVC dries? That's my uneducated opinion. Our original was quite bright (while still retaining *that* sound". I love it. I'm more than pleased that I was able to match that capsule regardless of it's "originality".

I can actually be more specific and say it was about 2-3 dB hotter at 5K & 10k than our first "clone capsule".
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Re: T-USA U47M (Modified by J.J. Blair)
« Reply #50 on: October 28, 2008, 09:52:59 pm »

Tony, I am finding that some indeed get brighter in a very magical way.  Almost all lose bass, though.  Some just turn to shit, though.  And it would seem that some get nice on just one side, and the other side can be crap. Either way, you are unlikely to get true omni with an old M7, as the tensions almost never seem to change uniformly on both sides.
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Re: T-USA U47M (Modified by J.J. Blair)
« Reply #51 on: November 26, 2008, 08:02:25 am »

"I guess you've used your refurbed U47 on a few things now, JJ. How has it turned out? Did you get a marked improvement changing out the caps and resistors?"

Any news on this yet?

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Re: T-USA U47M (Modified by J.J. Blair)
« Reply #52 on: November 26, 2008, 01:42:14 pm »

JB, from what was in there, yes.  I'd have to say that I do.  I'm very happy with it.  
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