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Re: I'm Voting McCain
« Reply #45 on: September 05, 2008, 02:44:06 am »

it doesn't matter that palin loves god if she is a chronic
liar.  "thou shalt not bear false witness": fail!

we now know mccain wanted a pro-choice veep.
but the party wouldn't let him. do you want
that kind of president?
grant richard wrote on Fri, 05 September 2008 02:37

I find it interesting that nobody has commented on McCain's extra-marital affair.

Any takers?

he is not a fundamentalist. so if he commits adultry
it does not necessarily make him a hypocrite.
i am disturbed by deception, hypocrisy,
lying, graft. but  i would not consider
adultry to be a high crime, like
embezzlement, or starting a
war under false pretenses.

jeff dinces

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Re: I'm Voting McCain
« Reply #46 on: September 05, 2008, 02:44:44 am »

Edvaard wrote on Fri, 05 September 2008 01:28



That's what it's all about, making others suffer the responsibility for your own irresponsibility.





You say that as if you know me.
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Barry Hufker

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Re: I'm Voting McCain
« Reply #47 on: September 05, 2008, 03:00:04 am »

You guys do realize Grant is just baiting you, right?

You're wasting your time here.

I said I was done and with this one I really am.

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Re: I'm Voting McCain
« Reply #48 on: September 05, 2008, 03:11:00 am »

Barry Hufker wrote on Fri, 05 September 2008 02:00

You guys do realize Grant is just baiting you, right?



Call me a liar, but I'm not baiting anybody.

I'm asking legitimate questions as I know little about the candidates except for the two issues I mentioned before.

Come on guys...now's your chance to get another democratic vote.  Make it happen!
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Re: I'm Voting McCain
« Reply #49 on: September 05, 2008, 03:11:13 am »

Barry Hufker wrote on Fri, 05 September 2008 17:00

You guys do realize Grant is just baiting you, right?

You're wasting your time here.

I said I was done and with this one I really am.



Yep, that's why i wanted to venture into territory beyond a partizan response in my post above....we have already had our elections, the candidate/party of my choice won, and i feel Australia has changed tack in our journey as a nation....... bit of a change of direction in a healthy way. My hope is the same happens in good old USA.
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Re: I'm Voting McCain
« Reply #50 on: September 05, 2008, 03:11:55 am »


Grant,


No, I don't know you, actually.

But, if you know me at all, that won't stop me.

Ha ha.

Good to know you, in any case.


I'll have you know, I have actually voted for a Republican, once or twice.


I over stated the case, in some ways, but I can't back off of my anti-war stance.



Good to meet you, in any case, Grant.
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Re: I'm Voting McCain
« Reply #51 on: September 05, 2008, 03:16:17 am »

Edvaard wrote on Fri, 05 September 2008 02:11


No, I don't know you, actually.

But, if you know me at all, that won't stop me.

Ha ha.

Good to know you, in any case.


I'll have you know, I have actually voted for a Republican, once or twice.


I over stated the case, in some ways, but I can't back off of my anti-war stance.



Good to meet you, in any case, Grant.


And I certainly respect that.

Good to meet you as well good sir.
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Re: I'm Voting McCain
« Reply #52 on: September 05, 2008, 04:02:58 am »

"Just as some may be simultaneously anti-"douchebaggery" and "intelectual""

that's inteRlectual...

faith AND politics?

oh baby!!!




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Re: I'm Voting McCain
« Reply #53 on: September 05, 2008, 06:30:19 am »

I don't think that Grant Richards is "baiting" anyone here.

I think that he is only expressing some frustration here.

And if any of the rest of you don't ever feel some frustration in regards to what is thrown at us, I question where your mind is at.

Grant asked of us, "why should I vote Obama", and all anyone can provide as response is to insult the man.

BTW, all the puerile and adolescent jokes about McCain only distracts further from the positive things that Obama is saying.

Just calm down folks, let things go as they will.


As hard as they tried, even Cheney and Rumsfeld didn't bring the country totally down.

We might even be in good enough shape to spend the decades that it will take to bring IraQ back up to speed.




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Re: I'm Voting McCain
« Reply #54 on: September 05, 2008, 09:19:13 am »

grant richard wrote on Fri, 05 September 2008 00:08

groundhog wrote on Fri, 05 September 2008 00:05

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You may not think that character matters . But I believe that it does .


Sweet.  I'm not alone in the forum.



I'd like to briefly point out that you can't judge someone's character simply because you've seen them on TV.

Even to me, as a self-admitted naive person, claiming that you "know" the character of any candidate out there strikes me as very naive.  

You can make a guess, based on what you're presented with, regarding someone's character.  And you're welcome to act upon (read:vote based on) that guess.  But just keep in mind how much filtering and custom tailoring every word, every claim, every lapel pin and necktie go through before they reach your eyes and ears.  (This goes for both parties, BTW.)

Just because you've seen an actor playing a character in the movies doesn't mean you know their "character".  


Jess
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Re: I'm Voting McCain
« Reply #55 on: September 05, 2008, 09:55:25 am »

Well none of this has changed my views much...

...I actually LIKE McCain!

http://www.visit4info.com/sitecontent/LG/fullZZZZZZPRW060112202918PIC.jpg

Yep. I like McCain quite a lot!

Don't much care for that devious "faux-hero" sack o' crap who's running for president though.

Keith
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Re: I'm Voting McCain
« Reply #56 on: September 05, 2008, 10:15:43 am »

grant richard wrote on Thu, 04 September 2008 21:56

mgod wrote on Thu, 04 September 2008 23:47

 Handouts are required for salvation.

DS

You have a distorted view of salvation.

Faith is required for salvation. Period.

And true faith, to be a christian, is also a matter of deeds, not words. And unless one is a true christian, no salvation is offered. Time to get to work.

Someone said: "Salvation, another good concept, but a simplistic word i try and avoid in tagging myself as a believer. No offense or criticism meant to those who use the term, just using it to illustrate a perspective....... And that is the first dimension of being a christian to me is a personal response to the life and choices made by an individual 2000 years ago that have become more than a merely moral construct for me. This involves more than the words written in the old and new testament fundamentally, (pun intended ) important as they are. It is a response to the notion of being whole, and responsive to a world that has changed as our enlightenment has grown in the areas of human behavior, science and the existence and spirituality of peoples other than those of a Judeo- Christian heritage."

Lotta people have decided that since they believe, that's sufficient, and they don't have to do anything that Jesus talked about, like, oh...love. But there's believing and then there's believing. Not much real belief talked about in America these days. And Jesus didn't discuss abortion. But now we have two pro-choice (anti-life) candidates, but one who is pretending to be otherwise for the moment. Doe anyone really think he's changed his stripes for good?

No one to vote for, for the faux-christians. Abortion is not a religious issue, that's a fraud. If abortion is your sole concern, better sit this one out. If McCain wins and dies, I suppose President Palin could spend her whole term in office fighting this lost battle, while our economy burns.

In the meantime say that over to yourself: "President Palin". PTA, mayor, governor of a few people, President.

Why vote for Obama? He's bright, he thinks things through, he's not a knee-jerk anything. He believes we can find a way together, despite single-issue voters. Why not vote McCain? Because he's repudiated everything that made a wide variety of people support him in the past just for this shot at the office, and we can expect him to do more of the same in power. If he wins, he'll back-burner his new anti-abortion position for as long as he's there. He doesn't really care about the issue. Most people don't, and he knows that. The anti-abortionists aren't anyone's constituency. Politicians use it to get votes and then drop it. Its a pointless argument, and we make no progress on the real issue or ever  even approach having a real conversation because of all the noise raised over this red herring, a phony morality masquerading as a moral issue.

DS
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Re: I'm Voting McCain
« Reply #57 on: September 05, 2008, 10:24:46 am »

grant richard wrote on Thu, 04 September 2008 22:32


(FYI, not including myself, I've counted 11 democrats and 1 republican in this thread so far.

You must be a psychic, because very few people have said what they are, they've discussed issues.

I've voted for John McCain in the past, and am very disappointed in him this year. I had great hopes for a real conversation. But that doesn't tell you how I'm registered or how I've voted.

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Re: I'm Voting McCain
« Reply #58 on: September 05, 2008, 10:48:34 am »

C.O. Jones wrote on Thu, 04 September 2008 20:55

J.J. Blair wrote on Thu, 04 September 2008 22:48

 Do you think that evolution is just a theory?  Do you think the world is 6,000 years old?



Science explains how.  Religion helps us understand why.

Jones

Why is a meaningless artificial human construct, as is religion.

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Re: I'm Voting McCain
« Reply #59 on: September 05, 2008, 11:00:18 am »

grant richard wrote on Fri, 05 September 2008 05:56

mgod wrote on Thu, 04 September 2008 23:47

 Handouts are required for salvation.

DS


You have a distorted view of salvation.

Faith is required for salvation. Period.


How convenient...
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