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[Barry Hufker]

Grant,

I thought I'd check in to see how this train-wreck of a thread was doing.

I think you've done a very sad thing.  You have baited and ridiculed the fine people of this forum.  These are people I've known for a number of years now through correspondence and phone calls.  These are people who would drop everything if they thought they could help someone.  Through your "joke", you've shown great immaturity.  You have belittled people who have hung on in the thread in the hope they might make a real contact with you as a person.

You have squandered good will, the chance of real friendship, solid business relationships, the opportunity to gain real insight and so much more.

If banning you is being proposed, I will back it if I'm asked how I feel about it.  And that is really sad.  So much would have been given to you through the people you meet here and you threw it all away for a cheap joke.

Barry

[rankus]

+1

[maxim]

lighten up, you guys

as larry said: thank god, it's only a motion picture....

[grantis]

Barry Hufker wrote on Mon, 08 September 2008 02:10

Grant, I thought I'd check in to see how this train-wreck of a thread was doing. I think you've done a very sad thing.  You have baited and ridiculed the fine people of this forum.  These are people I've known for a number of years now through correspondence and phone calls.  These are people who would drop everything if they thought they could help someone.  Through your "joke", you've shown great immaturity.  You have belittled people who have hung on in the thread in the hope they might make a real contact with you as a person. You have squandered good will, the chance of real friendship, solid business relationships, the opportunity to gain real insight and so much more. If banning you is being proposed, I will back it if I'm asked how I feel about it.  And that is really sad.  So much would have been given to you through the people you meet here and you threw it all away for a cheap joke. Barry

I guess apologies are in order then.  I did not realize my having fun in the saloon would cause such grief.

I'm sorry.  No better way to say it.

[grantis]

maxim wrote on Mon, 08 September 2008 05:20

lighten up, you guys

Thanks for that.

[John Ivan]

What do I ave wrong Grant?

You think this is all funny..

I think this means that something is wrong with you.

You would vote for McCain.

I think this makes you stupid and mean..

The fact that you wasted the time of all these cats , means that you have no idea at all what we are facing.. You don't know how bad your life could get. You're an American. You've never had it "bad".. Really.. You are a two or three issue voter.. Man, is THAT ever stupid... Old Johnny comes out and says three lines about Baby Killers and he's got your vote.. He hangs a mental case Governor on the bill and everyone goes nuts.. Why? Because she doesn't own a Penis?
You people are amazing..

Lazy and stupid..

What am I wrong about Grant?

Ivan........................

[Jessica A. Engle]

Barry Hufker wrote on Mon, 08 September 2008 02:10

Grant, I thought I'd check in to see how this train-wreck of a thread was doing. I think you've done a very sad thing.  You have baited and ridiculed the fine people of this forum.  These are people I've known for a number of years now through correspondence and phone calls.  These are people who would drop everything if they thought they could help someone.  Through your "joke", you've shown great immaturity.  You have belittled people who have hung on in the thread in the hope they might make a real contact with you as a person. You have squandered good will, the chance of real friendship, solid business relationships, the opportunity to gain real insight and so much more. If banning you is being proposed, I will back it if I'm asked how I feel about it.  And that is really sad.  So much would have been given to you through the people you meet here and you threw it all away for a cheap joke. Barry

Thank you for taking a moment to sum up what is going on here so eloquently.  And for being civil and objective about it, as well.  This thread should have ended at post number five.  Everything that needed to be said about it had already been said by that point.

Jess

[mgod]

John Ivan wrote on Mon, 08 September 2008 05:31

I think this means that something is wrong with you.

That much is obvious. What a way to use one's time. Especially for someone espousing faith.

John Ivan wrote on Mon, 08 September 2008 05:31

The fact that you wasted the time of all these cats , ... Ivan........................

I don't think my time has been wasted. Despite the smug non-entity who has struggled and failed to make himself the center of this, I've enjoyed, as usual, conversing with the rest of you.

DS

[cerberus]

i agree with dan (and others)... grant isn't very good at trolling.

jeff dinces

[bblackwood]

While we generally let things go well beyond what we will in the rest of the forums, the fact that this turned out to be simple trolling pisses me off. I expect more from posters here and am *this* close to banning the OP from the Saloon permanently.

[danickstr]

This reminds me of the proverb about the boy who cried troll....

[John Ivan]

And I know I've been a bit harsh. But it's worth pointing out that the subject matter we are dealing with here could not be more serious.. At least, this is my opinion.

If Grant wants to discus this stuff seriously, that would be great. But to be simply trolling for heated responses and not trying at all to get to the bottom of who the candidates are and why we may or may not be voting for them, is just lame.

After all this, I still don't have any idea why Grant might be voting for McCain.. It would be good to hear the reasons. If he has reasons, that's fine but so far it's just been about how bad "Liberals" are.

Ivan.......................

[grantis]

bblackwood wrote on Mon, 08 September 2008 14:38

While we generally let things go well beyond what we will in the rest of the forums, the fact that this turned out to be simple trolling pisses me off. I expect more from posters here and am *this* close to banning the OP from the Saloon permanently.

As the poster before you said...I'm not very good at trolling...I'm not even sure what it is...maybe that's why I suck at it.

Again, very sorry.

[garret]

An internet troll is someone who posts inflammatory things just to get attention, and to get a rise out of people.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_Internet

[YZ]

Hi Grant,

I'd suggest you watch the 20 minute presentation here:

http://www.storyofstuff.com/

to get a "big picture" view of the linking of economics, politics, environment, vested interests, and how this affects everybody everywhere.

It is far from complete, even oversimplified at times, but IMVHO it is a good starting point.

I hope you'll enjoy watching it.