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Eric H.

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Re: The thread dedicated to "almost analog" plug ins.
« Reply #60 on: July 06, 2009, 07:00:23 PM »

Now let's make a thread about what plug-in does a better job than a medium quality analog box.
I'd rather have a Protools eq than a berhinger eq.
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Re: The thread dedicated to "almost analog" plug ins.
« Reply #61 on: July 07, 2009, 12:20:11 PM »

Ashermusic wrote on Mon, 29 June 2009 17:17

Empty Planet wrote on Tue, 07 October 2008 02:16

Well now, how about an ADT plugin?

VST (unfortunately for the PT users), though there is an AU version, and NO GUI!  But it DOES have adjustable ADT pan, wow %, wow frequency, flutter %, flutter frequency, and the option to choose (separately) between sine and triangle waveforms for both the wow and flutter.

http://www.vacuumsound.de/plugins.html

I've just been playing with it for a few minutes, but it seems kinda great.   Cool

Oh yeah, it's free.  Very Happy   God bless VST.


Cheers.






Thansk for the tip, i look forward to trying this.



Wow, this is a really nice sounding plug-in that I will use a lot. I have paid money for lesser.

Thanks again.
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Re: The thread dedicated to "almost analog" plug ins.
« Reply #62 on: July 09, 2009, 12:23:19 AM »

Eric H. wrote on Mon, 06 July 2009 19:00

Now let's make a thread about what plug-in does a better job than a medium quality analog box.
I'd rather have a Protools eq than a berhinger eq.


You've obviously never actually compared them, have you.  Fess up.

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Re: The thread dedicated to "almost analog" plug ins.
« Reply #63 on: July 11, 2009, 05:37:57 PM »

Well, i have and there is clearly no debate.
Some analog boxes kill your signal the moment you put it in.
That's my experience with some lo Q midas, soundcraft, mackie, beringher and others i don't remember.
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Re: The thread dedicated to "almost analog" plug ins.
« Reply #64 on: July 15, 2009, 05:56:05 PM »

this would make a GREAT new ad campaign


"the new ______ EQ Plug IN: Better than cheap, crappy analogue!"


this is what it's come to
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Re: The thread dedicated to "almost analog" plug ins.
« Reply #65 on: July 15, 2009, 08:35:54 PM »

How good was the first triode audio amp?

Improvement comes to all technologies.  There's been significant improvement in DSP already.

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Re: The thread dedicated to "almost analog" plug ins.
« Reply #66 on: July 16, 2009, 05:33:05 AM »

Eric H. wrote on Sat, 11 July 2009 22:37

Well, i have and there is clearly no debate.
Some analog boxes kill your signal the moment you put it in.
That's my experience with some lo Q midas, soundcraft, mackie, beringher and others i don't remember.

You do realise that many of the well-liked classic analogue EQs have lower Q than a lot of the cheap modern ones?
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Re: The thread dedicated to "almost analog" plug ins.
« Reply #67 on: July 18, 2009, 08:04:37 PM »

I'm sorry i was lazy.
by lo Q, i meant low quality.

I do think that some plugs-ins, especially for eq (precise or not) and peak limiting can sound better in the box than with low to mid quality analog processors.
I'd better have good digital processing than medium analog processing.
I'd better have medium analog processing than medium digital processing (anyone remembers the O2R eq and reverbs...).
I also think very Good digital processing can be as good as good analog processing.
I still think a lot of it as to do with budget and interfacing.

By the way, has anyone tried to replace the mouse with a graphic tablet? i have a small one and begin to find it pretty cool for general use as a digital finger (if i may say so..)
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Re: The thread dedicated to "almost analog" plug ins.
« Reply #68 on: July 19, 2009, 10:49:47 PM »

Eric H. wrote on Sat, 18 July 2009 20:04



I do think that some plugs-ins, especially for eq (precise or not) and peak limiting can sound better in the box than with low to mid quality analog processors.




true

Eric H. wrote on Sat, 18 July 2009 20:04


I also think very Good digital processing can be as good as good analog processing.




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Re: The thread dedicated to "almost analog" plug ins.
« Reply #69 on: July 19, 2009, 11:03:26 PM »

Great digital is better than broken analog

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Re: The thread dedicated to "almost analog" plug ins.
« Reply #70 on: July 20, 2009, 03:23:09 PM »

The new Waves CLA plug ins sound closer to analog than anything I have heard from any software. They actually sound like part of the original signal, and not layered on top like most plug ins I have heard. There is also a certain forward sound that software usually does not usually impart to the signal that I have not heard before. The modeling technology of 2009 is getting pretty dang good.  Looking forward in hearing the UAD Manley VariMu as well.
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Re: The thread dedicated to "almost analog" plug ins.
« Reply #71 on: July 20, 2009, 06:34:49 PM »

Glenn Bucci wrote on Mon, 20 July 2009 20:23

The new Waves CLA plug ins sound closer to analog than anything I have heard from any software. They actually sound like part of the original signal, and not layered on top like most plug ins I have heard. There is also a certain forward sound that software usually does not usually impart to the signal that I have not heard before. The modeling technology of 2009 is getting pretty dang good.  Looking forward in hearing the UAD Manley VariMu as well.


I might be wrong here, but isn't Waves CLA just a bunch of impulse responses for their convolution EQ plug-in, in a clever package?
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Re: The thread dedicated to "almost analog" plug ins.
« Reply #72 on: July 20, 2009, 08:34:34 PM »

Tomas Danko wrote on Mon, 20 July 2009 18:34



I might be wrong here, but isn't Waves CLA just a bunch of impulse responses for their convolution EQ plug-in, in a clever package?


When I interviewed Waves when I did the Waves SSL review for EQ, they told me that they are getting better results with modeling over convolution when it came to EQ's and compressors.
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Re: The thread dedicated to "almost analog" plug ins.
« Reply #73 on: July 21, 2009, 01:55:18 PM »

Glenn Bucci wrote on Tue, 21 July 2009 01:34

Tomas Danko wrote on Mon, 20 July 2009 18:34



I might be wrong here, but isn't Waves CLA just a bunch of impulse responses for their convolution EQ plug-in, in a clever package?


When I interviewed Waves when I did the Waves SSL review for EQ, they told me that they are getting better results with modeling over convolution when it came to EQ's and compressors.


Please forgive a Swedish guy, but to be totally certain about what you meant was it that their modeling technology (i.e. not convolution) worked better for EQ and compression in comparison to their convolution technology?
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Re: The thread dedicated to "almost analog" plug ins.
« Reply #74 on: July 22, 2009, 03:00:33 PM »

Yes, that's what he means.  (I think!)
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