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Re: Maybe, a new record has been set!
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2004, 04:07:25 pm »

Also notice that my mastering job was around-15 RMS..but the actual VU was over +9. Steady state and random state seems to show the weighting of the meters. Tone bursts may give completly different results. They average between peak and rms data with the music, as a true VU should
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Re: Maybe, a new record has been set!
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2004, 04:51:18 pm »

One more thing I tried. I took a 10 second file of music and increased the volume 20dB, 2 times, utter clipping and hash.

The VU meters read +17.9dB. This is as high as they will go. I did this to see their "limit"
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Re: Maybe, a new record has been set!
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2004, 04:53:06 pm »

i think this says it all

even the kids get it man.............

http://projects.euphonicmasters.com/misc/0dBfs_iraq.jpg

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Re: Maybe, a new record has been set!
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2004, 09:29:20 pm »

Brad, how do the VU figures look to you based on my little experiment?
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Re: Maybe, a new record has been set!
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2004, 01:35:08 pm »

Looks like they decided -15dBfs = 0VU with a little oversampling wiggle room to account for the +17.8 figure that popped up. Doesn't tell you very much. dBfs and dBu(M) have no relationship. Never did, never will. Unless they clearly define the implimentation of their "VU" standard it is misleading at best.

Broadcasters have made their own standards in this matter. Maybe it follows one of those. Every European country has different standards IIRC. The BBC, Germany, Scandanavia, France.
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Re: Maybe, a new record has been set!
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2004, 01:51:09 pm »

Gold wrote on Thu, 10 June 2004 13:35

Looks like they decided -15dBfs = 0VU
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So this means that for the CD in question 0vu is about -.7dbFS.  That's negative  "point" 7, yikes!  I bet that sounds punchy.
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Re: Maybe, a new record has been set!
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2004, 03:56:52 pm »

Well, as Paul said above, tones don't give you the full picture here and without a reference voltage level and knowing what ballistics are used to generate the number, calling it VU doesn't really work with me...

That being said, it sounds like this is a hot record, but how hot relative to the other smashed-to-death releases (such as the new Maroon5 album) is hard to say.
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