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Beyerdynamic Soundstar II suibtable for live recording?
« on: August 11, 2008, 09:10:46 PM »

I've seen the Soundstar II (or M400) mentioned on this forum before. Does anyone know if this mic would be suitable on vocals for live concert recordings? The reason I ask is that, although I've only had minimal use with it in the studio, it seems to be more prone to popping than other mics I've used. I really like the sound of it though, so I'd like to use it if it's practical.

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Re: Beyerdynamic Soundstar II suibtable for live recording?
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2008, 06:47:09 PM »

jetbase wrote on Mon, 11 August 2008 20:10

I've seen the Soundstar II (or M400) mentioned on this forum before. Does anyone know if this mic would be suitable on vocals for live concert recordings? The reason I ask is that, although I've only had minimal use with it in the studio, it seems to be more prone to popping than other mics I've used. I really like the sound of it though, so I'd like to use it if it's practical.

Thanks,
Glenn

I have the exact opposite impression; it does pop suppression very well.  I think it would be great for live concert recordings.  Here's a scratch track I did with the Beyer that I wound up using in the final recording. If anyone can blow up a dynamic mic, it's Heather:

http://itrstudio.com/who you are.mp3

That's the Beyer Soundstar MK II on her lead vocal, and also the shout vocal.
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Re: Beyerdynamic Soundstar II suibtable for live recording?
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2008, 09:00:42 PM »

hargerst wrote on Thu, 14 August 2008 08:47

I have the exact opposite impression; it does pop suppression very well.  I think it would be great for live concert recordings.  Here's a scratch track I did with the Beyer that I wound up using in the final recording. If anyone can blow up a dynamic mic, it's Heather:

http://itrstudio.com/who you are.mp3

That's the Beyer Soundstar MK II on her lead vocal, and also the shout vocal.



Hey, I occasionally play that song in a church band. Now I'll be thinking of you instead of God whenever I play it!

Thanks for the advice Harvey, I'm not suprised if my impression is skewed since it is only a first impression & might have been due to poor vocal technique. I'm definitely impressed with the tone of this mic on vocals for a dynamic - and your recording verifies that impression at least.
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Re: Beyerdynamic Soundstar II suibtable for live recording?
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2008, 08:29:10 PM »

Hi Glen. I have one in my kit and use it often on guitar amps, for vox and even kick for a live jazz gig recently at Bennets Lane.To give you an idea, I had been using an SE vocal condenser for some live vox jobs, but find while it sounds clean and transparent , it doesn't have the body in the mids that the Beyer has.
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Re: Beyerdynamic Soundstar II suibtable for live recording?
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2008, 08:50:08 PM »

Thanks Chris. I've tried a couple of SE condensors & ribbon mics & I just can't get into them. I'll have to try the Beyer on kick sometime - have you tried it on kick for rock/pop as well?
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2008, 10:00:41 PM »

 I have just uploaded a song on myspace with the beyer on the kick for you to have a listen. Its  tracked through my Trident VFM at the Berwick Baptist church. Lot of fun that gig with some mates in Steve Messer's Strange Country. Steve is the Pastor at a church in Droin and the song is a true story about Denny who found his wife while DJ'ing a local public radio show. Steve bought an old  valve Lesly from Denny's 2nd hand shop for his keyboard player, Darryl Thompson. Denny suspected it was worth a few bob so it took Steve a while to secure the deal.
The kit was miced : beyer on kick in the hole, sm 56 on snare and M/S on the rest of the kit using a Rode K2 in fig 8 and a Neumann KM 85 mid.
The Live at Bennets Lane also has the Bayer on kick but the sound is very different with the front skin with no hole.
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Re: Beyerdynamic Soundstar II suibtable for live recording?
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2008, 01:02:18 AM »

Live at Bennets Lane sounds great! What did you use on piano & guitar?
Interesting story about Denny, but how did he lose his wife in the first place? Boom boom!
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Re: Beyerdynamic Soundstar II suibtable for live recording?
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2008, 02:01:57 AM »

Two Neumann KM85's on piano and a Merantz condenser on the guitar cab, i don't know the model number off hand.
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