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the brill bedroom

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Peluso 251
« on: August 06, 2008, 07:37:13 PM »

I'm hardly an expert on vocal mics, so i yield to your collective wisdom on this one. I'm looking for a good $1,000 tube mic to take my home studio up just one notch. I generally go to a commercial studio when i want to record really serious vocals, but I need something decent for when i can't do that. For instance, I really loved the sound of my voice through all the U-47s at Abbey Road a few months back, but the room is a smidge pricey for my average project.

I bought a Rode NT-V a while back and it's obviously a good mic, but i have a very raspy voice, lots of grit in there, and I found that mic, through my UA 610, to really accentuate that aspect of my voice. I generally like something a little darker and I've had really good luck with U-87s, U-67s and a Soundelux 195. I also have an ADK Vienna that actually sounds pretty good for a $300 mic.

I note that one can get a short capsule Peluso "copy" of a U-47 for around $1200 used, but i know nothing of the difference in capsule types. There's also a local guy who is selling the Peluso copy of the elam 251 for $900. I've heard really good things about 251s, but have never actually used one and I'm frankly intimidated about the prospect of 9 patterns.

So, once I sell the Rode, short of saving up for 5 years for a U-47, what do you all think? Would that Peluso 251 mic be a good move?

Thanks for any thoughts.
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Re: Peluso 251
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2008, 01:18:04 AM »

You might like the mics.  I will say however that giving those mics a name that makes one think they are in any way related to a 251 or U47 is highly misleading,  
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Re: Peluso 251
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2008, 09:01:26 AM »

That's  the general consensus and I totally get that, but what I'm really asking is has anyone used the Peluso 251 and/or short capsule 47 clone, and if so, what tonal characteristics do they find? I'm thinking about getting the 251 because of the price, butt hen I stop and realize that I've never used a real 251, so why would I buy a mic built to copy it? At least I have used u-47s a bit and know that my voice sounds good through them.
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Re: Peluso 251
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2008, 09:36:00 AM »

I had a 22 251 for years, actually got one of the early models. its a good, solid, well built mic, or at least mine was, i never had any issues with it. i actually just gave it to a friend of mine who records alot of female vocalists. for my male/rock type voice my avantone CV-12 was muc clearer and better and less than half the price

If your on a tighter budget like i normally am i would say have some sent to you and try them all out with your gear and voice or instrument and keep the one you like the best

i would suggest

22 251
2247le or just the 2247
P12

or

avantone

cv-12

chameleon labs ts-2

advanced audio mics (haven't heard these but i am looking at trying one)

or if your in the 1300 range the 22 251 is in, maybe save a little more and try a lawson mic, or a gefell in that range, possibly the telefunken ak47 (i think thats it)

anyway, i would try out a few and keep what really works for you

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Re: Peluso 251
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2008, 09:39:04 AM »

the brill bedroom wrote on Thu, 07 August 2008 09:01

That's  the general consensus and I totally get that, but what I'm really asking is has anyone used the Peluso 251 and/or short capsule 47 clone, and if so, what tonal characteristics do they find? I'm thinking about getting the 251 because of the price, butt hen I stop and realize that I've never used a real 251, so why would I buy a mic built to copy it? At least I have used u-47s a bit and know that my voice sounds good through them.



Like JJ alluded to, they aren't clones unless you consider a numeric designation in the name a technical spec.

I'm not that familiar with the Peluso's, they looked cheap and I wasn't in an environment where i could adequately judge sound characteristics but against the grain I have always been a fan of the Soundelux U95 for vocals, even with a U48 in the room.

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Re: Peluso 251
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2008, 03:47:56 PM »

Hi Corin,

Have you considered the Pearlman TM-1?

http://www.pearlmanmicrophones.com/tm1.html

I haven't heard one firsthand, but it may be worth checking out.

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Re: Peluso 251
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2008, 12:01:47 PM »

I've heard great things about the Pearlman mic, but I never see them used anywhere (and that might be a good recommendation) and I think they are $1700 or so new. I could be wrong, but they seem just a bit out of my price range.
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Re: Peluso 251
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2008, 04:26:49 PM »

the brill bedroom wrote on Fri, 08 August 2008 09:01

I've heard great things about the Pearlman mic, but I never see them used anywhere (and that might be a good recommendation) and I think they are $1700 or so new. I could be wrong, but they seem just a bit out of my price range.

Worth saving for, IMHO, or at least tracking one down so you can hear it (if you're near LA, I bet Dave Pearlman would happily demo it for you).

I got one a little while ago, and (much as I hate this phrase) for the price it's a great mic.  I don't have a U47 or a 251 to A/B it with, but I've used enough real-deal mics at places I've worked to know what quality sounds like.
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Re: Peluso 251
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2008, 11:21:24 PM »

I LOVE my Pearlman TM1 (with EF14 & K47).  Try to track one down and test it if you liked your voice on 47s.  It's a good-sounding, solid mic.  
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Re: Peluso 251
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2008, 12:28:09 PM »

A.J. wrote on Thu, 07 August 2008 15:47

Hi Corin,

Have you considered the Pearlman TM-1?

http://www.pearlmanmicrophones.com/tm1.html

I haven't heard one firsthand, but it may be worth checking out.

Best,




The TM-2 is also a really nice mic. I've been using it on a variety of sources, including vocals, for a few months now, and am really liking the results I'm getting.

It's a bit more affordable than the TM-1, if budget is a big concern.
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Re: Peluso 251
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2008, 06:37:44 PM »

you could rent a 251 or a 47 about 15 times for the price of a peluso 2247. I would rather rent the real thing as needed. most clients will agree an extra $50 to use the best mic possible is a good thing.    
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Re: Peluso 251
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2008, 03:44:53 PM »

brett you live in Hollyweird which makes rental of audio gear a breeze.
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Re: Peluso 251
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2008, 08:17:25 AM »

danickstr wrote on Sun, 24 August 2008 14:44

brett you live in Hollyweird which makes rental of audio gear a breeze.



Those places love to send stuff out also.


But If it is a 251 $50 a day would be on the low side $75-$150 would be closer to what you would pay for a rental.









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