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compasspnt

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Re: Hallelujah! FOOTBALL is on!
« Reply #60 on: July 26, 2009, 11:20:19 PM »

Well I will now reveal that for the past 24 years I have been part owner (albeit a small part) of this:

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Re: Hallelujah! FOOTBALL is on!
« Reply #61 on: July 27, 2009, 09:08:21 AM »

Terry, that´s awesome. You´re a member right?

Keith,

are you from Liverpool? You did a lot of the Manchester stuff back in the late 80ies right? Happy Mondays, New Order? How come you´re a Liverpool fan?

cheers
St

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Re: Hallelujah! FOOTBALL is on!
« Reply #62 on: July 27, 2009, 05:08:57 PM »

Steve,

I am -in point of fact- a 'reformed' Scouser.

The fact was that we had the ONLY SSL consoles anywhere north of Watford, and during the later part of the Thatcher years, many of the Northern bands would have done ANYTHING to avoid being 'forced' to go down to London (where the record companies usually preferred their acts to record, within reasonable proximity, and under not-infrequent threat of the A&R 'drop-by'),  owing to a combination of the perceived 'North-South divide', the declining industrial North, the comparatively prosperous South (home counties and London especially) and the tilted political inclinations towards the left in the North and towards the right in the south...

So all the Liverpool-area bands of course recorded at our place, but even the Mad-chester bands, when faced with two "evils"; (either recording in Thatcherite London and paying to stay down south, or having to put up with Scousers a half-hour's drive away, but sleeping in your own bed each night) usually tended to 'support their Northern brethren'.

It surprised all of us no end, but Manchester NEVER had an SSL-equipped studio (otherwise we'd probably have recorded MUCH fewer of them). We actually recorded albums for bands from ALL over the North, and even Scotland (Wet wet wet, the Waterboys etc). London was 2Hr,40mins away by (impressively frequent) train, so they usually ended up making the A&R guys come up here as a compromise. -the Scots tended to think that Liverpool was as far south as 'civilisation' stretched, before it became Sassenach pansy-land. (And Glaswegians in particular tend to quite like Scousers for some reason!)

But I left there in 1995; I could see the writing on the wall. -The price of bricks was rising, more people were fitting burglar alarms, and when the bottom fell out of the second-hand alloy wheel and car-radio market, I could see that the Scouse economy was doomed.

Wink

So now (as a penance for my MANY sins) I'm here in Orlando... the 'Torremolinos' of the new century. -Lobster pink British tourists as far as the eye can see.

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MDM (maxdimario) wrote on Fri, 16 November 2007 21:36

I have the feeling that I have more experience in my little finger than you do in your whole body about audio electronics..

compasspnt

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Re: Hallelujah! FOOTBALL is on!
« Reply #63 on: July 27, 2009, 09:56:41 PM »

stevieeastend wrote on Mon, 27 July 2009 09:08

Terry, that´s awesome. You´re a member right?



I am an owner.

And of course a fan.

White Hart Lane = Football.
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Re: Hallelujah! FOOTBALL is on!
« Reply #64 on: July 28, 2009, 06:04:53 AM »

ssltech wrote on Mon, 27 July 2009 23:08



So now (as a penance for my MANY sins) I'm here in Orlando... the 'Torremolinos' of the new century. -Lobster pink British tourists as far as the eye can see.




Keef,

great story!! But I am sure it could be worse, right? Although I can imagine coming from Liverpool it must indeed be a strange feeling living in Torrem...ah sorry, Orlando Wink

Personally I really like those records of that time. They were not super hifi in any way but with a lot of soul. Did you also record this song of the engerland squad for italia together with New Order? Digger Barnes trying on that as far as I can remember....


How´s Liverpool today? I am planning to visit Anfield this season and I heard from a lot that the atmosphere isn´t quit as it used to be... Also the city seems to be pretty down. I talked to a guy from Newcastle who lives around here and he basically told me that there are some areas really totaly out of control. No police, sort of no mans land, kids shooting at each other...

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St

P.S. I really LOVE the scouse accent! Everytime I hear an interview with Jamie "Me" Carragher I have to put the volume up. I found scouse humor also to be very special! Hanging out with a couple of scousers... just dead funny and very similar to the humor of people in Vienna.. love it!

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Re: Hallelujah! FOOTBALL is on!
« Reply #65 on: July 28, 2009, 06:17:50 AM »

compasspnt wrote on Tue, 28 July 2009 03:56



And of course a fan.

White Hart Lane = Football.




And this point I have to admit that Liverpool is just my second club, the club I support when it comes to europe and international football of course. And I can say that it grew to me really strong. Last season I´ve been watching every game on sky and hoping for No.19....

My club, Rapid Vienna, is well known for his impassioned fans in the german spoken area and of course the biggest club in Austria. It´s know for it´s working class history and kind of in the same tradition as Schalke, Dortmund or Kaiserslautern, all adopting and singing "You´ll never walk alone" from time to time....
In 1985 we beat Celtic in semis of the european cup/cupwinners and met Everton in the final, which we lost. But beating Celtic was indeed very special. I was 15 then and went to the game in Vienna. Glad not to get hurt though. Wanted to go to Glasgow but my dad wouldn´t let me, fortunately... Football changed since then.. not so much of an adventure but certainly much safer and more enjoyable to watch..

Interesting season ahead in england though..

Who the fuck is ManUnited?
St

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Re: Hallelujah! FOOTBALL is on!
« Reply #66 on: July 28, 2009, 04:10:47 PM »

Hoooboy... Football tunes?

No I never recorded England, but I DID record Liverpool and Everton every year that either of them made the FA cup final in the mid-1980's onwards. (...which was just about every year... I probably did about ten singles in all) -In 1986 BOTH Liverpool AND Everton made the FA cup final, and I actually got to engineer on BOTH records! -John 'Digger' Barnes was on that one (the 'Anfield Rap') although I should point out to those unfamiliar with this traditional abuse of music exactly what happens...

The two Football (soccer) teams who reach the final of the biggest sudden-death knockout tournament in British Football (the "F.A. cup") are suddenly besieged with an insatiable clamouring demand from fans for merchandise, souvenirs... specially those making specific reference to that year's competition.

WAY back, it was discovered that ANY soccer team who puts out a kitschy tune (no matter HOW awful) will sell enough to make the top-50 for a few weeks. The record is essentially GUARANTEED sales in the 250,000+ range, even if it's the most sonically-offensive crap that you ever heard... -Oh, and just to make this sonic-fest even "better", tradition demands that the football team has to 'sing' on it.

The first one I ever recorded was for Everton FC in the early 1980s... it was called 'The Spirit of the Blues'. Now invariably a soccer team is NOT known for singing, so it takes a 'craft services' table loaded with food and STRONG beer (Calrsberg Special Brew was found to be "productive" in setting the mood) and -after the 'musicians' have laid down the backing tracks and a guide vocal in a couple of hours- the soccer team arrives, -usually by bus, so that they don't have to drive home after the "necessary skinful".

So -to summarise- the usual formula for a soccer single is:

*a three-minute tune (usually written in about four minutes).
*Two-hours for setup and backing-track.
*Two hours for the team to booze and lose their inhibitions about singing.
*finally, a half hour of recording people who CAN'T sing (even when they're sober) while they're utterly gassed out of their brains.
*45 minutes for the mix, and an hour for tidying up the room (the assistants usually got to take home the leftover booze as a courtesy... sessions like this with that many 'under-discplined' egos in one room tend to need a LOT of help from the assistants!).

Anyhow, on that particular session I met a particular live sound engineer (who was friendly with the band members) for the first time, a fellpw who later became one of my very greatest and dearest friends. (He was my first choice for best man at my wedding, and happened to be touring through Florida with 'Del Amitri' at the time when I proposed to my wife) He has since grown his sound-reinforcement company into quite the empire, and was (just this year) it was voted European S.R. company of the year, IIRC.

Anyhow, Last time I was back in Liverpool for a few days on my own, Liverpool were playing away on the other side of the country, but I called up my friend Andy (who now has permanent season tickets behind the Everton goal for himself and his father) and we went together to Goodison park, with his dad giving me his ticket for the game.

The WONDERFUL thing about the city of Liverpool's soccer teams is that the rivalry between the two clubs is ENTIRELY good-natured. -Whereas in Manchester there is a pretty strong dislike between 'United' and 'City' fans, Liverpool and Everton fans will happily share a ride to a game, then go to opposing ends and SCREAM at each other for ninety minutes, then share a car home again, with the winning team supporters ruthlessly mocking the (understandably subdued) losing team fans.

THIS in particular was (though we didn't know it yet) to be a magical game. Everton versus Blackburn Rovers. -When Andy and I walked into the ground, they immediately started playing the tune which I'd first engineered on that session when we first met... Everton were playing with their THIRD-CHOICE goalkeeper, since their first choice keeper was injured, and their reserve keeper had been sent off in the previous game, so was sidelined.

Everton scored nine-minutes into the game.

About one minute later, Everton's (3rd-choice, remember!) keeper handled outside the penalty area, so received an automatic red card.

Everton then played the remaining eighty minutes with only ten men, against a determined Blackburn, with a FOURTH-CHOICE goalkeeper (making his debut, I think). Despite ALL the odds, they managed to put the ball in the Blackburn net THREE MORE TIMES... all three further goals were disallowed, two of them probably legitimately, but not so the other goal.

By the end of the game, I was utterly and completely drained. There had been action. There had been struggle. There had been conflict. There had been drama. -When the final whistle blew, my voice was hoarse, my throat was raw, my heart was pumping... there had been more than a half-dozen occasions where Blackburn had almost equalized, -with only the ULTRA-inexperienced goalkeeper to beat... yet somehow Everton had managed to scrabble, claw and scratch their way to a bruised-yet-rewarding victory.

-And that wasn't even my team!

There were forty-thousand people there, no cheerleaders danced, no tee-shirts were fired from cannons, most of the music played was sung by drunken idiots who couldn't sing... yet the level of entertainment was simply without peer, and nobody felt that they hadn't received their ticket's face value in entertainment at least five times over.

It was an enchanted afternoon.

When Everton -once again- made the FA cup final last month, I called Andy, and I called his parents. I told them how much I was rooting for Everton, and incidentally how proud I was that Everton now had an AMERICAN goalkeeper... (and I mean U.S. American, NOT South-American!) -Andy and his dad actually went to see the FA cup final with the Kaiser Chiefs (a band who are doing quite well over there at the moment) and got permission for the band bus to park next to the stadium overnight, with all the hook-ups... (-now THAT'S the way to do it!)

Sadly Everton were not up to the job of winning this particular final, but it was STILL an honorable fight.

As it happens the Kaiser Chiefs are coming to town (with Green Day) in about a week or so if I remember correctly... Anyhow, I'm going to be there at the board, catching up on the news and reliving old times with my buddy... -Long may he reign!

It's a grand old game, and it does the heart good!

Keith
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MDM (maxdimario) wrote on Fri, 16 November 2007 21:36

I have the feeling that I have more experience in my little finger than you do in your whole body about audio electronics..

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Re: Hallelujah! FOOTBALL is on!
« Reply #67 on: August 09, 2009, 07:58:26 PM »

NFL PreSeason starts tonight:

Buffalo & Tennessee 8:00PM (ET) NBC

I'll be watching in HD... Oooh Yeeaah!

JT
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