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A.J.

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Massey De-esser
« on: July 23, 2008, 10:02:34 AM »

From the Massey email list:
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Howdy,

I've released a new de-esser plugin here: http://www.masseyplugins.com/index_v2.html?page=deesser

It's compatible with Pro Tools 7 and OS X.  The XP version (for Pro Tools 6 & 7) will be out in August.

I'm not planning an OS X + Pro Tools 6 version as it seems that platform has mostly died out.  But, please let me know if you're interested in that configuration, and I'll certainly reconsider if there's substantial feedback.

Thanks!  And, have fun with the plugin,
Steve
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wwittman

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Re: Massey De-esser
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2008, 12:44:30 PM »

I feel strongly both ways (as my friend Ralph Schuckett was fond of ambivalently saying)

on the one hand, Steve Massey makes great plug-ins that are VERY reasonably priced.
So why wouldn't you?

on the other hand, I feel that de-essing is one of those things that tends to be way overdone, mostly I believe because people convince themselves that's what you "need to do" to have a "professional" vocal, rather than it being really necessary.

add to that that better recording techniques (like no stocking hoops, no over compression, singing in a direct line with a good mic...) are the way to correct sibilant problems before they occur.

so, my bottom line is that I find I need a de-esser (REALLY need one) once in a blue moon, but not regularly.
and in those instances, I find the free Digi de-esser  works just fine.

but I'll bet this Massey plug-in works great just the same.


see?
both ways.




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Re: Massey De-esser
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2008, 01:03:42 PM »

William, I agree.  De-essing is a last resort for me, and happens on maybe only 10% of the mixes I do, if I've recorded the vocal myself.  
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Re: Massey De-esser
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2008, 01:13:59 PM »

wwittman wrote on Wed, 23 July 2008 17:44



add to that that better recording techniques (like no stocking hoops, no over compression, singing in a direct line with a good mic...) are the way to correct sibilant problems before they occur.

see?
both ways.





William, Can you pls. explain the comment about singing "in a direct line".  Depending on the singer i find that the solution for plosoives and strident ssses is sometimes to offset mouth and mic.

FWIW-I very rarely have to de-ess.
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Re: Massey De-esser
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2008, 01:41:07 PM »

I downloaded the demo and for those those times when you DO need to de-ess, and are itb, it's quite good.  And it has a mix control so you can let some of the unprocessed signal through.


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Re: Massey De-esser
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2008, 03:42:07 PM »

Well, I couldn't dithagree more...

I use De-Ethhherth routinely, and I find that my mixtheth thound very profeththional indeed. -In fact tholoed vocalth thound ethpecially thweet and thaththy, even in thereo...

Tho I think that you're a bit of an athth for even thuggethting that de-eththerth are unneththeththary.

Keith.
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Re: Massey De-esser
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2008, 04:05:04 PM »

ssltech wrote on Wed, 23 July 2008 15:42

...  thuggethting that de-eththerth are unneththeththary.

Keith.


this just shows true commitment to the bit. Bravo, my friend.

Now if you would've changed your handle to "ethethltech"...

well, that's what they call the extra mile.


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Re: Massey De-esser
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2008, 04:05:06 PM »

prethithely
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Re: Massey De-esser
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2008, 04:46:34 PM »

 ROFL

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Re: Massey De-esser
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2008, 10:47:01 PM »

Exthellent Keith.

But you did uthe the word "use" onthe.
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Re: Massey De-esser
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2008, 11:38:14 PM »

compasspnt wrote on Wed, 23 July 2008 22:47

Exthellent Keith.

But you did uthe the word "use" onthe.




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Re: Massey De-esser
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2008, 11:40:16 PM »

Kendrix wrote on Wed, 23 July 2008 13:13



William, Can you pls. explain the comment about singing "in a direct line".  Depending on the singer i find that the solution for plosoives and strident ssses is sometimes to offset mouth and mic.

FWIW-I very rarely have to de-ess.



Singing somewhat off axis can definitely help to prevent P pops, but I find that for sibilance, it's the opposite.
Off axis response seems to exaggerate them, on most mics.


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Re: Massey De-esser
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2008, 01:07:44 AM »

Singing off axis of the mic has been limited in benefit for me.

Having the singer turn his/her head a bit - much better.

The mic therefore being off axis to the singer

JW
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Re: Massey De-esser
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2008, 07:57:51 AM »

There are an incredible number of spelling mistakes on the de-esser page. I guess for that price he can't afford someone to spell check it.
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Re: Massey De-esser
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2008, 08:03:22 AM »

Um, considering the nature of those mistakes, I'm thinking it's intentional...
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