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[jimmyjazz]

For me, that's an interesting comparison because I don't own "Flick of the Switch" and probably haven't heard many of the songs.

Bedlam In Belgium   The main rhythm track is out of tune, the band is pushing and pulling, and the sounds are on the "small" side.  Disregarding Mutt Lange's tendency to lead bands into harmonies they might not have created on their own, etc., I'm pretty confident that he would have caught the basic problems with the track and never let them get out of the studio.

Guns For Hire   Similar tuning issues, similar small sounds.  Band seems a bit tighter.  Sounds like a demo.

Nervous Shakedown   Better drum sounds and performance.  Closer to "Back In Black" than the other two, but still not in the same league.


Seems to me that AC/DC "needs" (or benefits from) a producer. or at least Mutt Lange's production.  Or . . . ???

[J.J. Blair]

wwittman wrote on Thu, 07 August 2008 16:32

if it feels at all like "work" you're in the wrong marriage.

Oh, man.  Did you have to go there?

[Chris Ilett]

trock wrote on Thu, 07 August 2008 21:46

oh and i just remembered this, about 1:04 second into "Nervous shakedown" they re use a riff right out of back in black, would a great producer have let that happen?? were they out of ideas where a fresh outlook would have helped??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FULmRElO1yk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slh1hlx-nno

[jimmyjazz]

Aw, he's not really ripping himself off.  The first one's in C, the second one's in G!

[Fibes]

J.J. Blair wrote on Fri, 08 August 2008 11:53

wwittman wrote on Thu, 07 August 2008 16:32 if it feels at all like "work" you're in the wrong marriage. Oh, man.  Did you have to go there?

I'm curious as to how this exchange couold turn into one as nerdy as the Flanger thread.

[wwittman]

give it time.
(or time based effects)

[RSettee]

trock wrote on Thu, 07 August 2008 21:46

sorta back on topic i was thinking about this and all the opinions posted here. so i did some digging....and listening I took Back in Black and listened to a bunch of the tunes again. then pulled out Flick of the switch now i found this somewhat interesting because they were both recorded at the same place, i would guess in the same rooms and console?? and gear?? they were recorded about 2 years apart. Brians voice still great everyone knows back in black, but i was interested to re listen to flick flick was self produced by AC/DC, and i think tony platt engineered this one as well as back in black, so we have ALOT of the same components going one other thing thats important is of course the songs themselves. i truly think Flick had some great songs, or possibilites of songs. while listening to some of the better tracks on Flick i couldn't help but wonder what Mutt would have done with them? certainly the overall sound would have been better, and i think some changes would have happened that would have possibly made this another great and huge album....if only i don't know...but i think this is a good example of a great band, one album with a great producer and then the same band, same studio, same engineer, self producing....very different couple examples, these 2 songs to me are stellar ac/dc songs, but there is something missing, something that didn't take them to the level i really wanted to hear them at. i bought this album as soon as it came out and my opinion was the same then as it is tonight what could mutt have done at compass point with these tracks?       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qhhk80u0HH8&feature=relat ed       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMfeKHH_YHs&feature=relat ed etc oh and i just remembered this, about 1:04 second into "Nervous shakedown" they re use a riff right out of back in black, would a great producer have let that happen?? were they out of ideas where a fresh outlook would have helped?? the mystery deepens      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvkuM_a1seA&feature=relat ed

A much better comparison is "Back In Black" vs "For Those About To Rock"....important to realize is that "For Those About To Rock", as a followup, is much overshadowed by "Back In Black", and Mutt Lange did both.

[Chris Ilett]

He's got hits left in him yet. There's stil E and A to go, then time for something new.

Apart from a bit too much bland, I have nothing against Bryan Adams. Good artist.

Anyone here worked with Jim Vallance?

[jimmyjazz]

Then that's not a very good comparison of "with" vs. "without" a producer, is it?  (Though it might be a good control for such a comparison.)

[Chris Ilett]

Sorry Your Honour.