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osumosan

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Re: Post 2 of 4
« Reply #150 on: July 17, 2008, 04:36:05 pm »

YZ wrote on Tue, 15 July 2008 23:33

osumosan wrote on Sat, 12 July 2008 10:45

 What do you mean by "bukkakke?" Do you mean sloppy and overdone?



I meant "in your face and exaggerated"; I felt drenched in it.
And both the original expression and my explanation above probably sound harsh, this is not the intention so here comes the 3rd attempt to characterize the bass sound:  too much low freqs and occupying a lot of space. Sorry if I offended you; I'll pay attention to being more civil in the next comments.


Tell me what about my response makes you think I was offended. You don't need to apologize for your opinion. I think I and most people here would have you forego being civil and just come out and say what you think.

No?
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Re: Post 2 of 4
« Reply #151 on: July 17, 2008, 08:09:40 pm »

osumosan wrote on Thu, 17 July 2008 17:36

YZ wrote on Tue, 15 July 2008 23:33

osumosan wrote on Sat, 12 July 2008 10:45

 What do you mean by "bukkakke?" Do you mean sloppy and overdone?



I meant "in your face and exaggerated"; I felt drenched in it.
And both the original expression and my explanation above probably sound harsh, this is not the intention so here comes the 3rd attempt to characterize the bass sound:  too much low freqs and occupying a lot of space. Sorry if I offended you; I'll pay attention to being more civil in the next comments.


Tell me what about my response makes you think I was offended. You don't need to apologize for your opinion. I think I and most people here would have you forego being civil and just come out and say what you think.

No?


osumosan,

I've already told what I think of your mix.

3 times.

And I prefer to err in the side of caution than the opposite: risk offending when that was not the intention.

I'm sorry to have thought I had offended you when you were not.

I hope you did not get offended by that...  Cool

And _I_ would prefer people to be civil when voicing their opinions, when I want the opposite there are a couple of other fora that can fill that need very well.
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Re: Post 2 of 4
« Reply #152 on: July 17, 2008, 08:44:01 pm »

YZ, where are you from?

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Re: Post 2 of 4
« Reply #153 on: July 17, 2008, 09:25:58 pm »

Chris Ilett wrote on Thu, 17 July 2008 21:44

YZ, where are you from?


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Re: imp19 discussion
« Reply #154 on: July 17, 2008, 10:37:01 pm »

I'll say this: being civil and saying what you think are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

"Make your words soft and tender, lest you should later be obliged to eat them."

Scott
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Re: imp19 discussion
« Reply #155 on: July 17, 2008, 10:37:48 pm »

nice...
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Re: imp19 discussion
« Reply #156 on: July 18, 2008, 08:04:02 am »

sstillwell wrote on Thu, 17 July 2008 21:37

I'll say this: being civil and saying what you think are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

"Make your words soft and tender, lest you should later be obliged to eat them."

Scott


Ohhhh, I like that.
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Re: imp19 discussion
« Reply #157 on: July 18, 2008, 08:12:17 am »

I have been on the road and still owe some people some reviews and have yet to hear J.s

Regarding the snare, when the drummer came in my exact direction was that I wanted it to sound (and this may sound strange) like a funky drummer who was playing in a bit of a held back manor.  Kind of like a city kid brought up on Rap and Funk playing in a Marine band or Church Band....  Groove it but keep it steady... make it sound like you are trying to sneak hits and fills in... then on the chorus, let er rip.  

I think that lead to the held back snare performance, which I actually like.

BTW, while on the road I had a chance to see Lucero and Glossary...  I have been into Glossary for a while (new album free at their site: www.glossary.us) but Lucero was new to me.

Holy shit.  People say Bruce Springsteen... I think more like the replacements with Bruces son singing...  Either way, check out their new album Rebels, Rogues & Sworn Brothers.  Really a great collection of heartfelt songs, and the show was just incredible.

Someone here turned me on to Jets from Brazil, and to tie this back in, Lucero covered a Jawbreaker song in their set... Kiss the Bottle I think.

Hope to wrap my reviews over the weekend.

Jim
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Re: imp19 discussion
« Reply #158 on: July 18, 2008, 10:11:31 am »

Chris Ilett wrote on Wed, 16 July 2008 15:08

I love this forum.


me too!

BTW, offending people seems inevitable on the internet.  HOWEVER, i don't think we should fault someone for attempting not too.  seems pretty honorable to me.
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Re: imp19 discussion
« Reply #159 on: July 18, 2008, 12:14:02 pm »

Totally. Not sure if that was aimed at me or not, but I just thought a couple of these guys were't quite understanding each other. It's ok, I'm not crying.

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Re: imp19 discussion
« Reply #160 on: July 18, 2008, 02:34:59 pm »

it was aimed at every one.  thus far no one is out of line here.

ousman requested honesty, and YZ just stated that he didn't want to offend anyone.

i respect both!  that's all i was getting at.
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Re: imp19 discussion
« Reply #161 on: July 18, 2008, 03:40:25 pm »

Then you are forgiven  

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Re: imp19 discussion
« Reply #162 on: July 18, 2008, 03:43:18 pm »

j.hall wrote on Wed, 16 July 2008 12:21


um, it's safe to say that EVERY mix you ever hear of mine has a replaced or blended  kick sample...



Pardon my ignorance, but this is something I want to learn about. How exactly does one replace a kick drum with a sample? Is it a process of cutting and pasting on each and every drum hit? Is there software that automates the process? It sounds like time-consuming, tedious work to accomplish manually. Am I missing something simple here?
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Re: imp19 discussion
« Reply #163 on: July 18, 2008, 04:25:17 pm »

sound replacer

http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?langid=100&itemid=10 59

Drumagog

http://www.drumagog.com/info.htm

aptrigga

http://www.apulsoft.ch/aptrigga/

even with the software it's tedious work.

if you want your kick to be right on top of the music and never move, you have to use a sample.  and as far as total replacement goes, kick is the easiest to get away with.

i use snare samples almost every mix, but they are blended with the recorded snare.

i'll cymbals from time to time and they too are supporting the recorded material.

98% of the time my mix has a 100% replaced kick drum.

yes it's a pain in the butt, that's why i call this a job.......
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Re: imp19 discussion
« Reply #164 on: July 19, 2008, 01:30:19 pm »

It's especially tedious on metal records with insanely fast double bass crap.

I've been through this recently.
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