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[bblackwood]

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSDAH91544220080709 ?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

Ugh.

[Jay Kadis]

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/21592

Worth reading.

[J-Texas]

Well, I better air up the tires on my bicycle.


Missile tests. Threats. They're enriching uranium for energy???  

[bblackwood]

It's a strange time we live in - I've always felt you don't attack a country unless they attack first, but in this day and age of nuclear technology (alongside biased media and leaders who speak out of both sides of their mouths), it's difficult to know what to do (or even what the actual facts are).

This sucks.

[mgod]

bblackwood wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 08:40

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSDAH91544220080709 ?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

And who can blame them, given what this administration keeps saying? They keep pounding the drumbeat of aggression on the middle east. Only 6 months left!

DS

[C.Cash]

$5.77/gallon of petrol in Nassau and rising!!!

This is what I have been using for the last 9 months. 85mpg.

[JDNelson]

mgod wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 09:07

And who can blame them, given what this administration keeps saying? They keep pounding the drumbeat of aggression on the middle east. Only 6 months left! DS

Dan, I hear what you're saying, but remember when the Iranian "students" seized our embassy in '79?  Jimmy Carter was president, and he was hardly a warmonger.  Those folks have a serious chip on their shoulders...

[PRobb]

mgod wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 12:07

bblackwood wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 08:40   http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSDAH91544220080709 ?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews And who can blame them, given what this administration keeps saying? They keep pounding the drumbeat of aggression on the middle east. Only 6 months left! DS

The game is militaristic bluster. Why do we think we're the only ones who get to play?

Six months.
Six more months.
Then a sane person takes over.

[mgod]

JDNelson wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 09:29

Dan, I hear what you're saying, but remember when the Iranian "students" seized our embassy in '79?  Jimmy Carter was president, and he was hardly a warmonger.  Those folks have a serious chip on their shoulders...

Yes they do. So do some of us.

DS

[bblackwood]

[J-Texas]

PRobb wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 11:46

Six more months. Then a sane person takes over.

Who? This guy?

[mgod]

http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/2747/t/3489/petition.jsp?p etition_KEY=405

[J-Texas]

Are you joking man? The Middle East has never known peace. You can't "talk" to fanatical people. They're ready to die for what they believe in. Are you? It's easy to armchair this whole thing, but shit is hitting the fan elsewhere in the world. Should we give them a "timeout"? A pat on the butt? Or should we let Iran know that there will be consequences? It's the same as a kid. Should the US police the world? Absolutely. It's like a bodyguard protecting the little guy from the bully. We are the biggest and baddest and that gives us the responsibility to help others who can't help themselves. Damned if we do, damned if we don't. Are we supposed to sit idly by while fellow humans are in danger? Act! If we TALK it will be too late.  

[JDNelson]

mgod wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 09:48

JDNelson wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 09:29 Dan, I hear what you're saying, but remember when the Iranian "students" seized our embassy in '79?  Jimmy Carter was president, and he was hardly a warmonger.  Those folks have a serious chip on their shoulders... Yes they do. So do some of us. DS

Contrast the Middle East grudge-driven mindset with that of Vietnam.  The U.S. carpet bombed and napalmed them(!) But the Vietnamese communists have basically let bygones be bygones and now they are eager for business deals, etc.  A rather adult rational attitude IMO.  

I mean the Japanese would have more to hate us for for A-bombing 'em.  But they've moved on, as rational adults do.

The beef that Iranian militants have with the U.S. relates to basic skullduggery the CIA undertook to put their desired guy in charge decades ago.  Big friggin' whoop.  Get over it!

What I'm thinking is, even with Obama as president, I doubt that the Iranian regime's attitude is going to change.  

[mgod]

But what does one do when WE are the danger? We are the biggest and the baddest and also sometimes the bully. Not a good situation for us or anyone else. This administration has less than zero credibility when it comes to who's a danger and who isn't. Other than to give credibility to the country's so-called enemies.

But I assume you'll be enlisting - because you're right, its easy to armchair this.

http://www.agd.state.tx.us/rr/

DS